"It's hard work and it takes too long. China is trying to do it "

2 years later and after China has done it, "why are the chinese taking the lead on all of this? we should be doing things more like China."

Why filter the air at all? Why not just turn the clean room into a vacuum? No air contaminants since there's no air. All the stuff in there looks to be automated anyway.

I have no idea how silicon fabs work so this probably isn't realistic.

I can just see makers starting to do small scale projects such as https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ddr5/russian-enthusiasts-are-building-their-own-ddr5-ram-amidst-the-worldwide-shortage-as-easy-as-sourcing-your-own-memory-modules-and-soldering-them-on-empty-pcbs

And then naturally expanding. I mean we talk about all these hypotheticals but at a certain price range, impractical turns practical. If you cannot convince any big chip makers to make your thing and people will pay 2x for your thing, then getting together with smaller manufacturing starts to make sense.

I dunno im just a small maker person. Made my own laptop from parts and all that. I see this as a potential opportunity.

This isn't really accurate, there's been literally hundreds of billions invested over the past several years. The only reason prices are predicted to normalize after 2028 is because that's when the new fabs come online that those investments are paying for.

I thought ireland and a couple of other countries are stepping up quite a bit recently? I know they have been at the forfront of the EUs efforts to start building chips and have been doing so last 10 years to start scaling.

Just did a search, looks like its going to happen: https://wallstreettimes.com/intel-foundry-5-billion-ireland-chip-manufacturing-2026/

This level of demand is not sustainable Totally agree!

At scale sure. But for like a small controller or power supply?

ASML has an order book running to 2028, the problem is it's almost impossible to create a competitor to ASML - Demand for fabs is not the issue.

Your client shows profile pics?

Theres some. Honestly more people are on mastodon than lemmy. It hasnt taken off like the mastodon crowd. If you do #maker on mastodon.social for example, its much better.

I wish the threadiverse supported hashtags and more mastodon stuff but it is what it is.

Thanks!

That is so awesome! NGL, some of that equipment looks more sophisticated than what I use in my university's semiconductor lab. But the spin coater with the pot lid cracks me up a bit.