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‘Escape From Tarkov’ Coming To Steam In the Coming Weeks (www.forbes.com)
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[–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is there a modern popular shooter that doesn't have a cheating problem? And if so, what are they doing differently?

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  • [+] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Is that not just a reflection of how popular it is and the incentives that players have to not lose and not just the desire to win? As opposed to a deathmatch or ranked game, you actually lose stuff when you lose in this game, right? Is there anything you could reasonably ask of this developer that isn't just inevitable for this game design?

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    There's not a cheating problem at all in Rocket League. Literally the only multiplayer game I've never seen or even heard of someone cheating in. Not even sure how you would when client side things won't even help play the game (even an aimbot for the ball would end up being a hindrance) and everything important is handled server side.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    There are several exposé videos on cheating in Rocket League. Here's one by Sunless Khan on "Jimmy" who was on trick shot team but he was actually editing the data of replay files to produce his clips.

    Another one by Wayton Pilkin on account boosting, DDoSing servers to cause legit players to have their connection dropped allowing the cheater to win by forfeit, and cheaters using invisible cars.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    How is editing replay clips cheating in the actual game?

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    How is using multiple accounts to play against yourself and boost your rank cheating in the actual game? No actual players are being robbed of wins.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    The clip thing doesn't affect anything in a game ever, at all. I didn't question boosting or DDOSing the servers; that shit has an effect on the game. The first thing doesn't. Not even remotely.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    How does boosting affect other players?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I'm too lazy to look it up right now but there have definitely been cheaters in Rocket League. The fact that it isn't a shooter is actually made it easy to cheat in; when there's no precedent for what cheating even looks like, how do you spot it? I remember a few years ago there was a whole scandal where it turned out someone who was famous for making trickshots had some kind of bot that was able to calculate exactly how to hit the ball midair and send it into the goal.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    What's even the point of cheating in multiplayer?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    There's a pretty massive item market for this game to use real money for in-game items, where the seller will meet you in a match and drop the gear. So there's a big financial incentive for people from third world countries to hack so they can quickly acquire valuable items to sell on that market.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Winning at any cost, I think.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    But if one cheats then it's not a real win?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Tell that to the cheaters. It doesn't seem to stop them, so it must feel real to them.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    That was the point of my question, to be honest. I don't understand. Cheating in a single player game to experience it I get. Unlimited ammo, all unlocks, that kind of thing - it lets the game be played differently. But against other players it seems completely pointless from my perspective.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I agree with you, but there are people who enjoy moving over others' sandcastles more than making their own. Some people enjoy ruining things for others. Others believe everyone else is cheating too, and their cheating is evening the playing field. The latter is a very common defense when asked directly.

    Several content creators lose to cheaters and manage to interview the blatant cheaters who admit to it. There are also relatively popular YouTubers whose entire channels are accusing pro players and streamers of cheating in COD and games. Lots of people assume good players are all cheating, and that it's approved (if not facilitated) by the developers. (Which is a necessary belief for them, considering these players will also often perform very well on LAN tournaments against other pros.)

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