I've been playing a bit of KT with some friends and the fundamentals are great. I really like the IGYG mechanic, the shooting mechanics, the hand to hand, and the movement. The keywords for weapons work fairly well too.

What doesn't work for us, at all, is the wildly overcomplicated faction rules that have been mashed over the top. If you're playing Mordheim there's a learning curve as you don't start with a hundred skills, special rules, and other optional crap on top.

I can mostly manage the DKK rules, for example. They've got four "orders" that can be applied to them which buff them in various ways. There's a load more "ploys" that can be applied too, which are a bit much to keep track of but are just about doable.

The same cannot be said for a friend's Vespid Stingwings, or Hernkyn Yaegirs. They've got a multiple resources they have to keep track of and work with (and therefore as their opponent I need to understand too!).

I don't know if cutting this complexity out would debuff a load of factions, otherwise I'd just be calling for all of it to be scrapped. I more wanted to create a topic to have a bit of a whinge about it and see if anyone else feels the same way.

With GW's skirmish games from the '90s, most factions start from a fairly similar point and then diverge over time as they slowly gain access to their special rules. It's a learning curve. KT seems to be more of a learning wall. Way too much to keep track of all at once.

Not once have we made it beyond turn 2 of a given game before we run out of time and headspace. It feels like there's a great game buried under all the cruft but I'm not sure how much work it is to excavate that game.

"cover" footprint? (piefed.social)
 

Let's say I'm building some woods for units to use as cover - what sort of footprint size do people use?

I'm not necessarily planning woods, but they're a classic terrain piece so I figure it helps explain the gist of the question. Depending on what seems sensible I'll figure out what my terrain actually ends up being.

I'm thinking about how many minis of different base size should fit but as I don't really play much 40K, I don't really know what works well, what's excessive, etc..

Bottom left, for example, there's a little base of "woods":
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It looks like maybe five 25mm bases fit in there. That wouldn't be much good in the modern game, I suspect, as units that use 25mm bases are usually at least ten minis.

 

#Mezgike's Thalpior is done!

STL here: https://mezgike.com/products/commander-thalpior-dredge-legion-master-digital-download

I'll be running him as Typhus in my rapidly growing #DeathGuard army.

I enjoyed painting this dude. He's imposing, detailed, but not excessively detailed. He didn't outstay his welcome, I would say. I like when a mini doesn't take long enough for me to get bored of it.

As always he's painted with the contrast setup I assembled after seeing a beautiful GW Death Guard army over on YakTribe.

This is the last of the infantry from my shelf. I do have a load more #DredgeMarines in a case, so there will be more, but for now I think I'm going to focus on the first of my two dreadnoughts. The second one isn't primed, thankfully, so it's not too big a job!

#MiniPainting #Warhammer #Warhammer40K

 

#Mezgike's Slime-ridden Exterminator, or "snail guy" as I call him (although it's probably a nautilus, right?)

Mini here:
https://mezgike.com/collections/the-dredge/products/slime-ridden-exterminator-digital-download

That hose is disgusting!

#DredgeMarines #DeathGuard #MiniPainting #Warhammer #Warhammer40K

 

My #DeathGuard daemon prince is done!

This is #Mezgike's Abyssal Dredge Prince:
https://mezgike.com/collections/the-dredge/products/abyssal-dredge-prince-digital-download

I quite liked painting this one. He came together quickly and didn't have too many details. Didn't overstay his welcome!

#Warhammer #40K #Warhammer40K #MiniPainting #DredgeMarines

 

#Mezgike's Rig Lord is done!

The metal was annoying but I like the end result, particularly the dredgeling peeking out.

I've included pre-wash photos so you can see just how much of the heavy lifting they do. Mmmm, easy...

Link to the mini:
https://mezgike.com/products/rig-lord-emissary-of-the-sunken-one-digital-download

#DeathGuard #DredgeMarines #MiniPainting #Warhammer #Warhammer40k

 

Scratch another one off the list.

I'm not super happy with this one. It'll do, but it didn't "spark joy" like some of the other sculpts. I'll be fielding him as a Lord of Virulence if I use him in 40K.

He's #Mezgike's Heavy Dredge Lord:
https://mezgike.com/products/death-shell-crawlers-digital-download-copy
(yes, the URL is right, it just looks wrong)

#DeathGuard #DredgeMarines #Warhammer #Warhammer40K #MiniPainting #3dPrinting

 

A while ago I painted the #DredgeMarine with the sea mine for a face but since then I've finished the rest of his mates.

They're fun but the level of detail gets a bit exhausting!

https://mezgike.com/collections/the-dredge/products/dredge-marine-tide-lords-digital-download

#Mezgike #DeathGuard #MiniPainting #Warhammer #Warhammer40K

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