▲ 144 ▼ ‘Escape From Tarkov’ Coming To Steam In the Coming Weeks (www.forbes.com) submitted 11 months ago by simple@piefed.social to c/games@lemmy.world 65 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Is that not just a reflection of how popular it is and the incentives that players have to not lose and not just the desire to win? As opposed to a deathmatch or ranked game, you actually lose stuff when you lose in this game, right? Is there anything you could reasonably ask of this developer that isn't just inevitable for this game design? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago Install a singleplayer mod that allows you to progress at your own pace and know that all of your faults were not because of cheaters (SPT), but I don't think those changes could be rectified in the PvP game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social -3 points 11 months ago* (5 children) There's not a cheating problem at all in Rocket League. Literally the only multiplayer game I've never seen or even heard of someone cheating in. Not even sure how you would when client side things won't even help play the game (even an aimbot for the ball would end up being a hindrance) and everything important is handled server side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) There are several exposé videos on cheating in Rocket League. Here's one by Sunless Khan on "Jimmy" who was on trick shot team but he was actually editing the data of replay files to produce his clips. Another one by Wayton Pilkin on account boosting, DDoSing servers to cause legit players to have their connection dropped allowing the cheater to win by forfeit, and cheaters using invisible cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is editing replay clips cheating in the actual game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is using multiple accounts to play against yourself and boost your rank cheating in the actual game? No actual players are being robbed of wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) The clip thing doesn't affect anything in a game ever, at all. I didn't question boosting or DDOSing the servers; that shit has an effect on the game. The first thing doesn't. Not even remotely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) How does boosting affect other players? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 5 points 11 months ago I'm too lazy to look it up right now but there have definitely been cheaters in Rocket League. The fact that it isn't a shooter is actually made it easy to cheat in; when there's no precedent for what cheating even looks like, how do you spot it? I remember a few years ago there was a whole scandal where it turned out someone who was famous for making trickshots had some kind of bot that was able to calculate exactly how to hit the ball midair and send it into the goal. permalink fedilink source parent [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] seralth@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) That just means you're not good enough at rocket League to notice it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago I am literally GC. permalink fedilink source parent [+] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago And the person I replied to stated that no multiplayer games of any kind are without cheaters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Is that not just a reflection of how popular it is and the incentives that players have to not lose and not just the desire to win? As opposed to a deathmatch or ranked game, you actually lose stuff when you lose in this game, right? Is there anything you could reasonably ask of this developer that isn't just inevitable for this game design? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago Install a singleplayer mod that allows you to progress at your own pace and know that all of your faults were not because of cheaters (SPT), but I don't think those changes could be rectified in the PvP game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago Install a singleplayer mod that allows you to progress at your own pace and know that all of your faults were not because of cheaters (SPT), but I don't think those changes could be rectified in the PvP game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social -3 points 11 months ago* (5 children) There's not a cheating problem at all in Rocket League. Literally the only multiplayer game I've never seen or even heard of someone cheating in. Not even sure how you would when client side things won't even help play the game (even an aimbot for the ball would end up being a hindrance) and everything important is handled server side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) There are several exposé videos on cheating in Rocket League. Here's one by Sunless Khan on "Jimmy" who was on trick shot team but he was actually editing the data of replay files to produce his clips. Another one by Wayton Pilkin on account boosting, DDoSing servers to cause legit players to have their connection dropped allowing the cheater to win by forfeit, and cheaters using invisible cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is editing replay clips cheating in the actual game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is using multiple accounts to play against yourself and boost your rank cheating in the actual game? No actual players are being robbed of wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) The clip thing doesn't affect anything in a game ever, at all. I didn't question boosting or DDOSing the servers; that shit has an effect on the game. The first thing doesn't. Not even remotely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) How does boosting affect other players? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 5 points 11 months ago I'm too lazy to look it up right now but there have definitely been cheaters in Rocket League. The fact that it isn't a shooter is actually made it easy to cheat in; when there's no precedent for what cheating even looks like, how do you spot it? I remember a few years ago there was a whole scandal where it turned out someone who was famous for making trickshots had some kind of bot that was able to calculate exactly how to hit the ball midair and send it into the goal. permalink fedilink source parent [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] seralth@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) That just means you're not good enough at rocket League to notice it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago I am literally GC. permalink fedilink source parent [+] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago And the person I replied to stated that no multiplayer games of any kind are without cheaters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) There are several exposé videos on cheating in Rocket League. Here's one by Sunless Khan on "Jimmy" who was on trick shot team but he was actually editing the data of replay files to produce his clips. Another one by Wayton Pilkin on account boosting, DDoSing servers to cause legit players to have their connection dropped allowing the cheater to win by forfeit, and cheaters using invisible cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is editing replay clips cheating in the actual game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is using multiple accounts to play against yourself and boost your rank cheating in the actual game? No actual players are being robbed of wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) The clip thing doesn't affect anything in a game ever, at all. I didn't question boosting or DDOSing the servers; that shit has an effect on the game. The first thing doesn't. Not even remotely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) How does boosting affect other players? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is editing replay clips cheating in the actual game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is using multiple accounts to play against yourself and boost your rank cheating in the actual game? No actual players are being robbed of wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) The clip thing doesn't affect anything in a game ever, at all. I didn't question boosting or DDOSing the servers; that shit has an effect on the game. The first thing doesn't. Not even remotely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) How does boosting affect other players? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) How is using multiple accounts to play against yourself and boost your rank cheating in the actual game? No actual players are being robbed of wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) The clip thing doesn't affect anything in a game ever, at all. I didn't question boosting or DDOSing the servers; that shit has an effect on the game. The first thing doesn't. Not even remotely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) How does boosting affect other players? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) The clip thing doesn't affect anything in a game ever, at all. I didn't question boosting or DDOSing the servers; that shit has an effect on the game. The first thing doesn't. Not even remotely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) How does boosting affect other players? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) How does boosting affect other players? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) You boost yourself to a level you can't actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It's the exact opposite problem smurfing creates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 4 points 11 months ago Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 5 points 11 months ago I'm too lazy to look it up right now but there have definitely been cheaters in Rocket League. The fact that it isn't a shooter is actually made it easy to cheat in; when there's no precedent for what cheating even looks like, how do you spot it? I remember a few years ago there was a whole scandal where it turned out someone who was famous for making trickshots had some kind of bot that was able to calculate exactly how to hit the ball midair and send it into the goal. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] seralth@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) That just means you're not good enough at rocket League to notice it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago I am literally GC. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago And the person I replied to stated that no multiplayer games of any kind are without cheaters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 11 months ago And the person I replied to stated that no multiplayer games of any kind are without cheaters. permalink fedilink source parent