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[–] 62 points 1 month ago (31 children)

They are taking ground step by step. We must push back.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You push back by switching to PC (preferrably Linux) and never giving Sony a single cent ever again

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    ...where you can buy physical media! And resell your games!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    While completely ignoring the fact that there is at least competition on pc and therefore more likely to get the games for significantly cheaper. No online costs. And at least 2 of the PC storefronts have never given us a reason to fear losing our library that we paid for. And if they ever did enshitify and steal our digital games from us, we could easily sail the seas and recover our games.

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    [–] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    No more offensive than two streaming companies offering the movie "It Part I" on one companies subscription and "It Part II" on another's. They're just blatantly pissing in our face from above and yelling "Fuck You!" out in the open now.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I know they won't, but Microsoft has the chance to do something hilarious right now.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago

    No disc? No buy.

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    [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Isn’t this one of the biggest things that tanked Xbox’s series x announcement? Like, they changed their minds but still lost good will and customers?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You might be thinking of the Xbox One. That reveal had a number of major unforced errors, but the killing of the used game market was the one everyone remembers because Sony REALLY nailed them to the cross with it.

    Other hilarious fumbles include:

    • The name.
    • Forced inclusion of the Kinect, a mandatory $100 always-on camera and microphone in your living room, in the same year that the Snowden leaks happened.
    • Underpowered DDR3 memory compared to the PS4's GDDR5.
    • Unwavering, pathological obsession with using the Xbox as a TV set-top box, going so far as to showing The Price is Right on stage. For context for younger people, The Price is Right was your great grandmother's favorite show.

    Actually, rewatching that video, this is basically where the Ball and Gun Gamer was born. Xbox really was forward thinking on this one specific thing...

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)
  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Imagine if, like, 6 years after Steam launched, Valve deleted 500 games from the libraries of those who bought them and didn't refund anyone. I guarantee nobody would be using it in 2026 if that happened.

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    [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    🏴‍☠️

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    That was the last thing consoles had going for them. The only thing that will keep the next gen from flopping is inertia and maybe EXTREMELY aggressive pricing.

    Sony can't be trusted with digital content: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Sony%27s_attempted_removal_of_%22purchased%22_content They can't be trusted to keep providing support for digital content storefronts https://gameinformer.com/2021/03/22/ps3-ps-vita-and-psp-stores-are-closing-permanently-this-year-according-to-new-report And they can't be trusted te keep offering features they announced https://consumerrights.wiki/w/PlayStation_3_Removal_of_OtherOS_with_System_Update_3.21

    So, yeah, why would I buy a box with built in obsolescence from a company who has pressed the "make obsolete" button multiple times? If I'm buying downloadable games I'll do so on a platform that I can run in any machine I want to, and that will keep supporting things I bought for decades to come.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    It's not the physical media that makes this suck. It's the fact that there are no protections in place for ordinary customers to prevent them from being abused like this.

    Virtual digital media is just fine. The problem is that it's all DRM-wrapped garbageware that is "licensed" not owned. It ought to be fucking illegal to sell this kind of shit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I haven't bought physical media in years. I haven't lost any games by buying digital only. That said, there is something concerning about the ability of companies to take away what you have already paid for, or retire it from a platform.

    Once sold, you should have to be able to sell it back - something like "we're offering you $0.50 to sell your copy of RandomGame2008 you haven't played in 18 years". I bet you a bunch of people would agree to that if it was credited to a wallet toward new games. I have a backlog of games I would sell that I bought... on sale... bought never ended up playing.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago*
    1. I was a happy Playstation user through every generation, starting with the first one
    2. I got a Playstation 5 1-2 years after its launch
    3. After being a Linux user for years, I decided I could also try Linux gaming so I bought a used LCD Steam Deck early 2025
    4. My Playstation 5 started gathering dust and was only used for demanding racing games like Gran Turismo 7 or Nba Streaming
    5. Saw the Steam Machine announcement and started having a dilemna. Decided I'd look at its price before making a decision to fully switch to Linux gaming
    6. Saw the Steam Machine US price and decided I'd get it only if it's less than CHF 1000.- in my country
    7. Saw the Playstation disc removal and decided that no matter what, I ain't getting another Playstation.

    Thank you Sony for making my decision easier! I love your games and would probably buy some on PC if I could know for sure that they wouldn't be taken away.

    I ain't selling the Playstation 5 as I'll probably buy a few more exclusives (on disc) for it, but it'll probably keep gathering dust and being mostly used as an Nba league pass streaming machine.

    Now the removal of physical discs ain't really the problem, but if you combine this with shady practices from Sony, it'll be GOG (and Steam when not available) all the way for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Blah, blah, blah. So tired of hearing about this.

    Nobody should be trusting Sony, disc or no disc.

    Rootkit anyone?

    Twice Linux promised and then removed with a bait and switch?

    So Sony isn't going to have physical disks, so fucking what. Just other thing on the pile.

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