▲ 370 ▼ PlayStation’s Physical Media-Free Future Isn’t Just Concerning, It’s Offensive (www.ign.com) submitted 1 month ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world 74 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] hahattpro@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (3 children) They are taking ground step by step. We must push back. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (1 child) You push back by switching to PC (preferrably Linux) and never giving Sony a single cent ever again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children) ...where you can buy physical media! And resell your games! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) While completely ignoring the fact that there is at least competition on pc and therefore more likely to get the games for significantly cheaper. No online costs. And at least 2 of the PC storefronts have never given us a reason to fear losing our library that we paid for. And if they ever did enshitify and steal our digital games from us, we could easily sail the seas and recover our games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago Uh ok permalink fedilink source parent [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) ...where you can pirate every single one of Sony's games. And emulate not ported ones. Pirated too, of course. Pirate and seed even if you have no intention of playing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago If everyone keeps bragging about piracy devs will gravitate to consoles where it’s harder permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 month ago (3 children) How can you? They've done the numbers and have decided they can exist without customers who have to have physical discs. Physical media only makes up 25% of sales to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ytsedude@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (3 children) They're expecting people to give in. It's easier to buy something digitally, but it sure as hell ain't better. They are counting on us shrugging our shoulders, throwing our hands up, but ultimately giving up and giving in. Don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 1 month ago The people who have an issue with Sony's business practices are already not buying their products, like me for instance. They've already decided that they don't want you as a customer. It's like telling your boss, "You can't fire me; I quit." permalink fedilink source parent [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It is better for many people. It all depends on what you prefer. I personally prefer having a full digital library that I can share via home console sharing, that I can access at any time from any Internet connected console at any time, that I don’t have to worry about my kids damaging or losing my disks, and that I can just buy and play at any time of day. I’m middle aged with kids, I’m not loaning games to friends or trading games in. It costs more of my time to drive to the shops to buy a game than I’d save over buying digital, and as you get older you understand that time is the most important thing you have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago I have 1 physical PS5 disc. Everything else is digital. I get the convenience factor. But after Sony just deleted over 500 movies that people bought from their library, I don't trust Sony. So even preferring digital, I will never buy another digital product from them. I'll still play wolverine and other exclusives, but I'm buying physical. And used, because fuck you Sony, you aren't getting another cent from me. I've had every single console, including the vita and PS+ since the ps3, that recently got canceled when the stopped letting you stack membership. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. I am opposed to DRM, but digital itself is far preferable. When I travel knowing I can grab any game I want from my server (before or even after I arrive) and play it on any device I want is far superior to having to carry around physical items that only work with one device - a device I also would have to bring with me. The problem is people already gave in when they choose a system that is useless for anything except one specific purpose and one specific game format. Your last sentence fits perfectly about their hardware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Far preferable? lmao you are ignorant beyond imagination permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yes. Far preferable and I gave you reasons why. Care to comment on that, or just going to sling insults? permalink fedilink source parent [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. That's your preference and that's fair. However, one thing that many people are not grasping is that this decisions WILL affect them as well. The moment Sony is the only one where you can get your fix the prices will get higher and stay high because there is nowhere else where to buy PlayStation games. And that's why everyone should care about this . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) How would it affect me? I don't care what Sony does? Sony will never be the only way to play a game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I was mainly referring to these people playing on PS actively saying "I don't care about discs I buy digital", without realizing they will be affected. But in general less competition in the space is bad for everyone as the remaining companies feel like they can pull any crap they want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago The problem isn't the discs, it's the hardware. You can't do anything with it. Need open hardware so you can buy games wherever you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ashtear@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago (2 children) Simple, you buy competitors' products and you vote for policymakers that commit to regulatory policy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) I'm going to fight this by purchasing digital games on steam. That'll show 'em. But seriously, this isn't an attack from Sony, it's a reaction. People are trending towards digital purchases on all platforms. If the PlayStation is irrelevant without physical games then they will die by their own sword. Prior to this plenty of people were denigrating consoles as overpriced locked down computers anyway, this hardly makes a difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) If this was a lone decision, it's a reaction. Same time as deleting purchased movies from your library is an attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look, I recently jail broke my PS3, now I can put any digital game from PS1,PS2, PS3 or PSP. I can also rip my discs to the hard drive. Discs for games are irrelevant for me. I prefer digital games on any platform these days, and of the service providers device to remove my ownership I will take that as a sign that I can procure them through other methods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) That's great for older hardware. I just modded my switch. I might look into it for my ps3 or ps4 as well. Would potentially bring life back to a device thats collecting dust in storage. Do you have the ps3 that has the ps2 hardware in it? I got a later model that I think that backwards compatibly hardware was removed. Wondering if you could still play ps2, or if you need one of the original models? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago No. I have a fat that was after backwards compatibility. I haven't tested it yet, but the PS2 games are done with homebrew emulation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Regulatory policy to force a company to make a product? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* Regulatory policy for customer protection. The "stop killing games" initiative raises good points: make games playable in perpetuity and clearly state if you are only renting a license, rather than buying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ashtear@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago To preserve a right to ownership. But you knew that already. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago It’s much less than 25% actually. As you said, they’ve got literally all the data on game sales on their platform. They know that digital is the winner for the large majority of their customers. As you said, they know they don’t need physical buyers as they’re people who generally give less money to them anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children) Rolls eyes. This is getting so boring. It's Sony. You don't need games. You certainly don't need their hardware. I couldn't care less. Edit: left out a word! No wonder people jumped on me, lol. I meant to say you don't need SONYS games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MoreZombies@quokk.au 15 points 1 month ago cool, dude. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markz@suppo.fi 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) Why do people feel the need to announce they don't care about something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Because this is freaking everywhere. People won't shut up about it, and it's Sony. Have people not been paying attention? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Are you not aware that this is a gaming community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Yep. No sense in complaining at all the other places. And Sony has been fucking over people forever, its what they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Uh OK permalink fedilink source parent [–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago Yeah this guy is right. You don't need games. We should shut down this whole community. In fact, destroy all aspects of society that have ever had the slimmest negatives that aren't vital to daily survival permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (1 child) You push back by switching to PC (preferrably Linux) and never giving Sony a single cent ever again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children) ...where you can buy physical media! And resell your games! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) While completely ignoring the fact that there is at least competition on pc and therefore more likely to get the games for significantly cheaper. No online costs. And at least 2 of the PC storefronts have never given us a reason to fear losing our library that we paid for. And if they ever did enshitify and steal our digital games from us, we could easily sail the seas and recover our games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago Uh ok permalink fedilink source parent [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) ...where you can pirate every single one of Sony's games. And emulate not ported ones. Pirated too, of course. Pirate and seed even if you have no intention of playing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago If everyone keeps bragging about piracy devs will gravitate to consoles where it’s harder permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children) ...where you can buy physical media! And resell your games! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) While completely ignoring the fact that there is at least competition on pc and therefore more likely to get the games for significantly cheaper. No online costs. And at least 2 of the PC storefronts have never given us a reason to fear losing our library that we paid for. And if they ever did enshitify and steal our digital games from us, we could easily sail the seas and recover our games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago Uh ok permalink fedilink source parent [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) ...where you can pirate every single one of Sony's games. And emulate not ported ones. Pirated too, of course. Pirate and seed even if you have no intention of playing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago If everyone keeps bragging about piracy devs will gravitate to consoles where it’s harder permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) While completely ignoring the fact that there is at least competition on pc and therefore more likely to get the games for significantly cheaper. No online costs. And at least 2 of the PC storefronts have never given us a reason to fear losing our library that we paid for. And if they ever did enshitify and steal our digital games from us, we could easily sail the seas and recover our games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago Uh ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) ...where you can pirate every single one of Sony's games. And emulate not ported ones. Pirated too, of course. Pirate and seed even if you have no intention of playing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago If everyone keeps bragging about piracy devs will gravitate to consoles where it’s harder permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago If everyone keeps bragging about piracy devs will gravitate to consoles where it’s harder permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 month ago (3 children) How can you? They've done the numbers and have decided they can exist without customers who have to have physical discs. Physical media only makes up 25% of sales to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ytsedude@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (3 children) They're expecting people to give in. It's easier to buy something digitally, but it sure as hell ain't better. They are counting on us shrugging our shoulders, throwing our hands up, but ultimately giving up and giving in. Don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 1 month ago The people who have an issue with Sony's business practices are already not buying their products, like me for instance. They've already decided that they don't want you as a customer. It's like telling your boss, "You can't fire me; I quit." permalink fedilink source parent [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It is better for many people. It all depends on what you prefer. I personally prefer having a full digital library that I can share via home console sharing, that I can access at any time from any Internet connected console at any time, that I don’t have to worry about my kids damaging or losing my disks, and that I can just buy and play at any time of day. I’m middle aged with kids, I’m not loaning games to friends or trading games in. It costs more of my time to drive to the shops to buy a game than I’d save over buying digital, and as you get older you understand that time is the most important thing you have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago I have 1 physical PS5 disc. Everything else is digital. I get the convenience factor. But after Sony just deleted over 500 movies that people bought from their library, I don't trust Sony. So even preferring digital, I will never buy another digital product from them. I'll still play wolverine and other exclusives, but I'm buying physical. And used, because fuck you Sony, you aren't getting another cent from me. I've had every single console, including the vita and PS+ since the ps3, that recently got canceled when the stopped letting you stack membership. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. I am opposed to DRM, but digital itself is far preferable. When I travel knowing I can grab any game I want from my server (before or even after I arrive) and play it on any device I want is far superior to having to carry around physical items that only work with one device - a device I also would have to bring with me. The problem is people already gave in when they choose a system that is useless for anything except one specific purpose and one specific game format. Your last sentence fits perfectly about their hardware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Far preferable? lmao you are ignorant beyond imagination permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yes. Far preferable and I gave you reasons why. Care to comment on that, or just going to sling insults? permalink fedilink source parent [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. That's your preference and that's fair. However, one thing that many people are not grasping is that this decisions WILL affect them as well. The moment Sony is the only one where you can get your fix the prices will get higher and stay high because there is nowhere else where to buy PlayStation games. And that's why everyone should care about this . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) How would it affect me? I don't care what Sony does? Sony will never be the only way to play a game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I was mainly referring to these people playing on PS actively saying "I don't care about discs I buy digital", without realizing they will be affected. But in general less competition in the space is bad for everyone as the remaining companies feel like they can pull any crap they want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago The problem isn't the discs, it's the hardware. You can't do anything with it. Need open hardware so you can buy games wherever you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ashtear@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago (2 children) Simple, you buy competitors' products and you vote for policymakers that commit to regulatory policy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) I'm going to fight this by purchasing digital games on steam. That'll show 'em. But seriously, this isn't an attack from Sony, it's a reaction. People are trending towards digital purchases on all platforms. If the PlayStation is irrelevant without physical games then they will die by their own sword. Prior to this plenty of people were denigrating consoles as overpriced locked down computers anyway, this hardly makes a difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) If this was a lone decision, it's a reaction. Same time as deleting purchased movies from your library is an attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look, I recently jail broke my PS3, now I can put any digital game from PS1,PS2, PS3 or PSP. I can also rip my discs to the hard drive. Discs for games are irrelevant for me. I prefer digital games on any platform these days, and of the service providers device to remove my ownership I will take that as a sign that I can procure them through other methods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) That's great for older hardware. I just modded my switch. I might look into it for my ps3 or ps4 as well. Would potentially bring life back to a device thats collecting dust in storage. Do you have the ps3 that has the ps2 hardware in it? I got a later model that I think that backwards compatibly hardware was removed. Wondering if you could still play ps2, or if you need one of the original models? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago No. I have a fat that was after backwards compatibility. I haven't tested it yet, but the PS2 games are done with homebrew emulation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Regulatory policy to force a company to make a product? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* Regulatory policy for customer protection. The "stop killing games" initiative raises good points: make games playable in perpetuity and clearly state if you are only renting a license, rather than buying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ashtear@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago To preserve a right to ownership. But you knew that already. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago It’s much less than 25% actually. As you said, they’ve got literally all the data on game sales on their platform. They know that digital is the winner for the large majority of their customers. As you said, they know they don’t need physical buyers as they’re people who generally give less money to them anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ytsedude@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (3 children) They're expecting people to give in. It's easier to buy something digitally, but it sure as hell ain't better. They are counting on us shrugging our shoulders, throwing our hands up, but ultimately giving up and giving in. Don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 1 month ago The people who have an issue with Sony's business practices are already not buying their products, like me for instance. They've already decided that they don't want you as a customer. It's like telling your boss, "You can't fire me; I quit." permalink fedilink source parent [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It is better for many people. It all depends on what you prefer. I personally prefer having a full digital library that I can share via home console sharing, that I can access at any time from any Internet connected console at any time, that I don’t have to worry about my kids damaging or losing my disks, and that I can just buy and play at any time of day. I’m middle aged with kids, I’m not loaning games to friends or trading games in. It costs more of my time to drive to the shops to buy a game than I’d save over buying digital, and as you get older you understand that time is the most important thing you have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago I have 1 physical PS5 disc. Everything else is digital. I get the convenience factor. But after Sony just deleted over 500 movies that people bought from their library, I don't trust Sony. So even preferring digital, I will never buy another digital product from them. I'll still play wolverine and other exclusives, but I'm buying physical. And used, because fuck you Sony, you aren't getting another cent from me. I've had every single console, including the vita and PS+ since the ps3, that recently got canceled when the stopped letting you stack membership. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. I am opposed to DRM, but digital itself is far preferable. When I travel knowing I can grab any game I want from my server (before or even after I arrive) and play it on any device I want is far superior to having to carry around physical items that only work with one device - a device I also would have to bring with me. The problem is people already gave in when they choose a system that is useless for anything except one specific purpose and one specific game format. Your last sentence fits perfectly about their hardware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Far preferable? lmao you are ignorant beyond imagination permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yes. Far preferable and I gave you reasons why. Care to comment on that, or just going to sling insults? permalink fedilink source parent [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. That's your preference and that's fair. However, one thing that many people are not grasping is that this decisions WILL affect them as well. The moment Sony is the only one where you can get your fix the prices will get higher and stay high because there is nowhere else where to buy PlayStation games. And that's why everyone should care about this . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) How would it affect me? I don't care what Sony does? Sony will never be the only way to play a game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I was mainly referring to these people playing on PS actively saying "I don't care about discs I buy digital", without realizing they will be affected. But in general less competition in the space is bad for everyone as the remaining companies feel like they can pull any crap they want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago The problem isn't the discs, it's the hardware. You can't do anything with it. Need open hardware so you can buy games wherever you want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 1 month ago The people who have an issue with Sony's business practices are already not buying their products, like me for instance. They've already decided that they don't want you as a customer. It's like telling your boss, "You can't fire me; I quit." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It is better for many people. It all depends on what you prefer. I personally prefer having a full digital library that I can share via home console sharing, that I can access at any time from any Internet connected console at any time, that I don’t have to worry about my kids damaging or losing my disks, and that I can just buy and play at any time of day. I’m middle aged with kids, I’m not loaning games to friends or trading games in. It costs more of my time to drive to the shops to buy a game than I’d save over buying digital, and as you get older you understand that time is the most important thing you have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago I have 1 physical PS5 disc. Everything else is digital. I get the convenience factor. But after Sony just deleted over 500 movies that people bought from their library, I don't trust Sony. So even preferring digital, I will never buy another digital product from them. I'll still play wolverine and other exclusives, but I'm buying physical. And used, because fuck you Sony, you aren't getting another cent from me. I've had every single console, including the vita and PS+ since the ps3, that recently got canceled when the stopped letting you stack membership. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago I have 1 physical PS5 disc. Everything else is digital. I get the convenience factor. But after Sony just deleted over 500 movies that people bought from their library, I don't trust Sony. So even preferring digital, I will never buy another digital product from them. I'll still play wolverine and other exclusives, but I'm buying physical. And used, because fuck you Sony, you aren't getting another cent from me. I've had every single console, including the vita and PS+ since the ps3, that recently got canceled when the stopped letting you stack membership. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. I am opposed to DRM, but digital itself is far preferable. When I travel knowing I can grab any game I want from my server (before or even after I arrive) and play it on any device I want is far superior to having to carry around physical items that only work with one device - a device I also would have to bring with me. The problem is people already gave in when they choose a system that is useless for anything except one specific purpose and one specific game format. Your last sentence fits perfectly about their hardware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Far preferable? lmao you are ignorant beyond imagination permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yes. Far preferable and I gave you reasons why. Care to comment on that, or just going to sling insults? permalink fedilink source parent [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. That's your preference and that's fair. However, one thing that many people are not grasping is that this decisions WILL affect them as well. The moment Sony is the only one where you can get your fix the prices will get higher and stay high because there is nowhere else where to buy PlayStation games. And that's why everyone should care about this . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) How would it affect me? I don't care what Sony does? Sony will never be the only way to play a game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I was mainly referring to these people playing on PS actively saying "I don't care about discs I buy digital", without realizing they will be affected. But in general less competition in the space is bad for everyone as the remaining companies feel like they can pull any crap they want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago The problem isn't the discs, it's the hardware. You can't do anything with it. Need open hardware so you can buy games wherever you want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Far preferable? lmao you are ignorant beyond imagination permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yes. Far preferable and I gave you reasons why. Care to comment on that, or just going to sling insults? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yes. Far preferable and I gave you reasons why. Care to comment on that, or just going to sling insults? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) The last thing I need is more crap around the house. I vastly prefer digital, as long as I get the files and can do anything I want with them. That's your preference and that's fair. However, one thing that many people are not grasping is that this decisions WILL affect them as well. The moment Sony is the only one where you can get your fix the prices will get higher and stay high because there is nowhere else where to buy PlayStation games. And that's why everyone should care about this . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) How would it affect me? I don't care what Sony does? Sony will never be the only way to play a game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I was mainly referring to these people playing on PS actively saying "I don't care about discs I buy digital", without realizing they will be affected. But in general less competition in the space is bad for everyone as the remaining companies feel like they can pull any crap they want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago The problem isn't the discs, it's the hardware. You can't do anything with it. Need open hardware so you can buy games wherever you want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) How would it affect me? I don't care what Sony does? Sony will never be the only way to play a game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I was mainly referring to these people playing on PS actively saying "I don't care about discs I buy digital", without realizing they will be affected. But in general less competition in the space is bad for everyone as the remaining companies feel like they can pull any crap they want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago The problem isn't the discs, it's the hardware. You can't do anything with it. Need open hardware so you can buy games wherever you want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zcatch@fedinsfw.app 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I was mainly referring to these people playing on PS actively saying "I don't care about discs I buy digital", without realizing they will be affected. But in general less competition in the space is bad for everyone as the remaining companies feel like they can pull any crap they want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago The problem isn't the discs, it's the hardware. You can't do anything with it. Need open hardware so you can buy games wherever you want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago The problem isn't the discs, it's the hardware. You can't do anything with it. Need open hardware so you can buy games wherever you want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ashtear@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago (2 children) Simple, you buy competitors' products and you vote for policymakers that commit to regulatory policy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) I'm going to fight this by purchasing digital games on steam. That'll show 'em. But seriously, this isn't an attack from Sony, it's a reaction. People are trending towards digital purchases on all platforms. If the PlayStation is irrelevant without physical games then they will die by their own sword. Prior to this plenty of people were denigrating consoles as overpriced locked down computers anyway, this hardly makes a difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) If this was a lone decision, it's a reaction. Same time as deleting purchased movies from your library is an attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look, I recently jail broke my PS3, now I can put any digital game from PS1,PS2, PS3 or PSP. I can also rip my discs to the hard drive. Discs for games are irrelevant for me. I prefer digital games on any platform these days, and of the service providers device to remove my ownership I will take that as a sign that I can procure them through other methods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) That's great for older hardware. I just modded my switch. I might look into it for my ps3 or ps4 as well. Would potentially bring life back to a device thats collecting dust in storage. Do you have the ps3 that has the ps2 hardware in it? I got a later model that I think that backwards compatibly hardware was removed. Wondering if you could still play ps2, or if you need one of the original models? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago No. I have a fat that was after backwards compatibility. I haven't tested it yet, but the PS2 games are done with homebrew emulation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Regulatory policy to force a company to make a product? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* Regulatory policy for customer protection. The "stop killing games" initiative raises good points: make games playable in perpetuity and clearly state if you are only renting a license, rather than buying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ashtear@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago To preserve a right to ownership. But you knew that already. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) I'm going to fight this by purchasing digital games on steam. That'll show 'em. But seriously, this isn't an attack from Sony, it's a reaction. People are trending towards digital purchases on all platforms. If the PlayStation is irrelevant without physical games then they will die by their own sword. Prior to this plenty of people were denigrating consoles as overpriced locked down computers anyway, this hardly makes a difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) If this was a lone decision, it's a reaction. Same time as deleting purchased movies from your library is an attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look, I recently jail broke my PS3, now I can put any digital game from PS1,PS2, PS3 or PSP. I can also rip my discs to the hard drive. Discs for games are irrelevant for me. I prefer digital games on any platform these days, and of the service providers device to remove my ownership I will take that as a sign that I can procure them through other methods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) That's great for older hardware. I just modded my switch. I might look into it for my ps3 or ps4 as well. Would potentially bring life back to a device thats collecting dust in storage. Do you have the ps3 that has the ps2 hardware in it? I got a later model that I think that backwards compatibly hardware was removed. Wondering if you could still play ps2, or if you need one of the original models? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago No. I have a fat that was after backwards compatibility. I haven't tested it yet, but the PS2 games are done with homebrew emulation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) If this was a lone decision, it's a reaction. Same time as deleting purchased movies from your library is an attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look, I recently jail broke my PS3, now I can put any digital game from PS1,PS2, PS3 or PSP. I can also rip my discs to the hard drive. Discs for games are irrelevant for me. I prefer digital games on any platform these days, and of the service providers device to remove my ownership I will take that as a sign that I can procure them through other methods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) That's great for older hardware. I just modded my switch. I might look into it for my ps3 or ps4 as well. Would potentially bring life back to a device thats collecting dust in storage. Do you have the ps3 that has the ps2 hardware in it? I got a later model that I think that backwards compatibly hardware was removed. Wondering if you could still play ps2, or if you need one of the original models? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago No. I have a fat that was after backwards compatibility. I haven't tested it yet, but the PS2 games are done with homebrew emulation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look, I recently jail broke my PS3, now I can put any digital game from PS1,PS2, PS3 or PSP. I can also rip my discs to the hard drive. Discs for games are irrelevant for me. I prefer digital games on any platform these days, and of the service providers device to remove my ownership I will take that as a sign that I can procure them through other methods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) That's great for older hardware. I just modded my switch. I might look into it for my ps3 or ps4 as well. Would potentially bring life back to a device thats collecting dust in storage. Do you have the ps3 that has the ps2 hardware in it? I got a later model that I think that backwards compatibly hardware was removed. Wondering if you could still play ps2, or if you need one of the original models? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago No. I have a fat that was after backwards compatibility. I haven't tested it yet, but the PS2 games are done with homebrew emulation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) That's great for older hardware. I just modded my switch. I might look into it for my ps3 or ps4 as well. Would potentially bring life back to a device thats collecting dust in storage. Do you have the ps3 that has the ps2 hardware in it? I got a later model that I think that backwards compatibly hardware was removed. Wondering if you could still play ps2, or if you need one of the original models? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago No. I have a fat that was after backwards compatibility. I haven't tested it yet, but the PS2 games are done with homebrew emulation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago No. I have a fat that was after backwards compatibility. I haven't tested it yet, but the PS2 games are done with homebrew emulation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Regulatory policy to force a company to make a product? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* Regulatory policy for customer protection. The "stop killing games" initiative raises good points: make games playable in perpetuity and clearly state if you are only renting a license, rather than buying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ashtear@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago To preserve a right to ownership. But you knew that already. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* Regulatory policy for customer protection. The "stop killing games" initiative raises good points: make games playable in perpetuity and clearly state if you are only renting a license, rather than buying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ashtear@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago To preserve a right to ownership. But you knew that already. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago It’s much less than 25% actually. As you said, they’ve got literally all the data on game sales on their platform. They know that digital is the winner for the large majority of their customers. As you said, they know they don’t need physical buyers as they’re people who generally give less money to them anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children) Rolls eyes. This is getting so boring. It's Sony. You don't need games. You certainly don't need their hardware. I couldn't care less. Edit: left out a word! No wonder people jumped on me, lol. I meant to say you don't need SONYS games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MoreZombies@quokk.au 15 points 1 month ago cool, dude. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markz@suppo.fi 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) Why do people feel the need to announce they don't care about something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Because this is freaking everywhere. People won't shut up about it, and it's Sony. Have people not been paying attention? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Are you not aware that this is a gaming community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Yep. No sense in complaining at all the other places. And Sony has been fucking over people forever, its what they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Uh OK permalink fedilink source parent [–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago Yeah this guy is right. You don't need games. We should shut down this whole community. In fact, destroy all aspects of society that have ever had the slimmest negatives that aren't vital to daily survival permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markz@suppo.fi 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) Why do people feel the need to announce they don't care about something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Because this is freaking everywhere. People won't shut up about it, and it's Sony. Have people not been paying attention? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Are you not aware that this is a gaming community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Yep. No sense in complaining at all the other places. And Sony has been fucking over people forever, its what they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Uh OK permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Because this is freaking everywhere. People won't shut up about it, and it's Sony. Have people not been paying attention? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Are you not aware that this is a gaming community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Yep. No sense in complaining at all the other places. And Sony has been fucking over people forever, its what they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Uh OK permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Are you not aware that this is a gaming community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Yep. No sense in complaining at all the other places. And Sony has been fucking over people forever, its what they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Uh OK permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Yep. No sense in complaining at all the other places. And Sony has been fucking over people forever, its what they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Uh OK permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago Yeah this guy is right. You don't need games. We should shut down this whole community. In fact, destroy all aspects of society that have ever had the slimmest negatives that aren't vital to daily survival permalink fedilink source parent