Another article that highlighs inherent flaws in the American legal system. How can this potentially be an actual lawsuit? How can "journalists" even entertain reporting on this?

Honestly I'm just posting to laugh at my fellow lemmings responses and watch see how the plaintiff is roasted for not gitting gud.

But, there is a real conversation here around continued ignorance of game development and the value of difficult games as a value proposition. Afterall, the person attempting to sue from did choose to purchase the games willingly knowing they're not for scrub casuals like themselves.

What do you all think, is difficulty gating content a real issue? Should dev's have some kind of legal requirement to appease players that can spec a build properly? Is it Thursday and I'm just looking for some easy laughs at a morons expense?

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[–] 90 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  1. You can file the paperwork to attempt to sue anyone for anything. It doesn't mean it will be accepted by the court, or that the judge will not summon you there specifically to laugh in your face, declare your suit frivolous, throw you out, and refuse to validate your parking.
  2. If Jabroni thinks he's having it rough with Elden Ring, he ought to go back and try out the first couple of King's Field games...
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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    From reading his posts, he doesn't think the game is too hard he thinks there's an entire game hidden inside Elden Ring. He claims there's an entire parallel universe for the lands between hidden in the game files and no one has found it because they purposely hid this final "50% of the game" and made it impossible to find.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So if they made it impossible to find, how did he find it?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Not sure and I don't exactly understand that part. It has to do with the themes and messages behind Bloodborne and how that game is a metaphor for awakening true humanity or something along those lines. But that was just a cross franchise hint for the actual parallel universe in Elden Ring.

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Who is it, QuantumTV?

    It is a game that is difficult, made by a company that is widely known for making some of the highest difficulty games in gaming. And arguably, Elden Ring is their easiest game. This guy signed up for it. If he didn't know, its his fault.

    There is no lawsuit here, this gets thrown out instantly. FromSoftware makes games and they can make whatever they want. If people don't want their games, then they won't buy them.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Elden ring is their easiest game

    If you doubt this, go start a new play through on Dark Souls II.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    You can file a lawsuit about just about anything. It doesn't mean it's going anywhere.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'd say it's absolutely insane that someone might actually be able to take the creators of Elden Ring to court over the fact they're not good enough to beat a game intentionally made to be hard. I imagine they're the same people who would try and sue Sintendo over a Mrio Mker level that they can't beat first try.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    I the US you can sue anyone for anything. You'll lose for stuff like this post, but you can do it all you want. The fact anyone is reporting on this is the issue. It should be ignored.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    The article is using as a source a 4chan post that had a docket number that didn't check out. I'm pretty sure this is a joke someone took seriously because they needed to publish something today.

    This would get almost immediately dismissed by any judge.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago*

    People can sue for whatever reason they want, but that doesn't mean a court will entertain it. I'm sure whatever judge this is put in front of will dismiss it immediately.

    As for the difficulty discussion. Not all games are made for all players, and that's OK. If it's too hard for you, play sometime else. Soulsborne games do not need difficulty settings, and I'm glad they don't.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago*

    there's a guy on 4chan who's planning to sue Fromsoft

    Lol, no. There's a guy on 4chan who's saying wildly outlandish shit in order to have a laugh at anyone who takes it seriously.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Absolute maidenless behavior.

    Seriously tho, it's really stupid. Not every game is meant to be enjoyed by every gamer, just like how not every book will not be enjoyed by every reader. If the devs are fine with excluding a potential group of audience members by making their game very difficult, then they should be allowed to do that. Unfortunately, I get that it sucks for the people that don't have the time or skills to 'git gud' at a game like Elden Ring and they may feel like they wasted their money on it. However, it's not like you can demand a refund at the movie theater because a movie you saw was confusing, not funny, or just not something you like.

    This is definitely just my opinion, but to me it seems like Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3 were both popular enough that most people that play video games should know FromSoftware's reputation for making very difficult games. If you haven't played one of their games before, you should know that it's a gamble as to weather you can even finish the game. But, my view on this might be pretty skewed as most people I talk to play a lot of video games

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You can't really find out of you'll get good enough to enjoy a soulslike without buying one and playing it for longer than the two hour refund period. For other products, you usually have something you can do about it or some way to try it first. You don't need to buy a kayak to find out you don't like kayaking as you can go for a kayaking lesson first and use the venue's equipment. It's understandable that people who hit a wall and can never get any enjoyment from a soulslike will be upset that it cost them just as much to find that out as it costs someone who'll compete the game and have a great time.

    Maybe it's enough to just do the refund window based on progression rather than time.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Buy game that is wildly known to be too difficult for some. Made by studio known for making games too difficult for some.

    Throws a fit and sues studio.

    Yeah, that sounds like a skill issue.

    Edit: It gets worse.

    The player references not only Elden Ring but also Bloodborne in this regard. He says that game director Hidetaka Miyazaki cut a large chunk of Bloodborne out of the game. This was revealed in an interview where Miyazaki discussed players transforming into a beast. The player believes that this transformation feature is in Bloodborne but wasn’t ever added to the playable game.

    https://nexushub.co.za/nexus/elden-ring-player-sues-from-software-over-difficult-and-inaccessible-game.html

    This person is just plain mentally challenged. And I don’t mean that as an insult. Shit, that’s actually sad.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm suing Twister for my inability to be flexible

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I refuse to believe this is real.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I'm convinced that FromSoftware has the biggest weirdos as their fanbase. I never played a FromSoftware game before elden ring, and i wish i would've just played the game and never looked at forums or wherever they throw up their opinions. Before i bought the dlc i watched a video that was titled something like: the elden ring dlc is really bad or something like that. The video had a ton of views and a lot of people seemed to agree, so i watched it, because i wasn't sure if i should spend the money or not. The video made me actually mad because of how absolutely stupid it was. The brain-dead dude even got mad because of the word "scadutree" "Yeah what is that, i'm pretty sure it's supposed to be called shadowtree, they can't even get that right." These guys have some sort of disability where they can't enjoy the game if they use anything but a stick as a weapon.

    Imagine someone complaining about DOOM because it's too hard, and you go:"i don't know, once you get the plasma cannon... "I DON'T USE THE PLASMA CANNON, I ONLY USE THE STARTER PISTOL, WHY DO THE DEVS MAKE THE GAME SO HARD? SHOTGUNS ARE FOR BABIES JUST PISTOL.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Where article? Am I stupid?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s not even that hard. I seriously was bracing for some ridiculous bullshit based on the response but I haven’t struggled at all through it. Sometimes I do hit a hard boss and explore to come back later, but nothing insurmountable. I still have yet to finish but Sekiro still makes this games seem like a walk in the park. Hell, all the Dark souls games are far harder too.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This is like suing an MMO because you want to solo raid dungeons so you can enjoy the content without having to play multiplayer.

    Don't get me wrong, their opinion is fine. But the lawsuit is idiotic. Just do what the rest of us do when we're screwed over by circumstance and choices: build a bridge and get over it.

    The only circumstance I could see a "too hard" lawsuit maybe possibly hypothetically working out is if the customer was disabled. They might have a slim chance if they could use the Americans with Disability Act (ADA) to sledgehammer the game developer with. I personally don't believe it would work, but I'm not a lawyer so what the hell do I know.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    What a joke. Git good, /v/ user.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Lmndbdjjeis

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    In America, you can sue anyone for literally anything.

    Doesn't mean you'll win, but it's basically a highly enshrined natural right that only the rich can make best use of.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Soulslike games only frustrate me immensely. I don't mind a challenge, but when a game starts to feel more like work than hobby I'll pass. So Elden Ring has never been on my wishlist, but I applaud those who have the motivation to git gud and persevere.

    To each their own, research a bit before you buy something and accept that you might sometimes buy a game that doesn't suit you. Mistakes and wrong decisions happen, that's life.

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    You can file a suit against anyone for any reason. Garbage ones get thrown out pretty quick.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    The reason that they can be a lawsuit is you can sue for anything in the US, doesn't mean that it has any merit to it, or the case will ever even be heard.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Git...

    ...it for PC and cheat. That's what I did.

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