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[–] 188 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Only for terrible AAA games. Actual fun games I am fine.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    yeah.. just dont buy unreal engine 5 games and you are fine

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I have never hated an engine before UE5. But god it is just a steaming pile of unoptimized, bloated dogshit.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    The engine isn't bad itself. The problem is it has some really cool tools that are expensive to run, but developers just turn them all on instead of optimizing. See: ARC Raiders for how it should be done. It's UE5, but they aren't using Nanite or Lumen. UE5 can run very well. Game developers thinking the only thing that matters is having the most photorealistic games is what's causes the issue.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Seriously, I barely play any new games, and pretty much no AAA that have come out the last few years. This year I've finished:

    • Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Conviction, and Blacklist
    • Super Mario World
    • Grim Dawn (co-op)
    • 999 (9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors)
    • Across the Obelisk (multiple times, wife and I play this co-op)
    • Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin
    • Stella Glow
    • Ball x Pit
    • Rainbow Six Vegas 2
    • ChainStaff
    • 9 Years of Shadows
    • Ace Combat X
    • Live A Live remake

    And currently I'm playing Megacopter: Blades of the Goddess solo, and Divinity: Original Sin 2 with my wife.

    I'm having a blast tearing through the backlog this year, and I've barely bought any games compared to previous years. My Steam Deck alone has like 150+ games on it I'm looking to play through, and that doesn't even account for all the retro games I'm looking to play via emulation.

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    [–] 120 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Don't worry, maybe china will flood the market with cheap ram soon or something.

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    [–] 117 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    "Good" news is that AI companies killed the gaming upgrade market, so studios will need to target the same hardware for a while. We might even see the come back of the smart tricks to go beyond the hardware limits era.

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  • [–] 75 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    They're prob going to try to push cloud hardware for everything. GeForce now, Windows 12? Online subscription!

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    They seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that internet infrastructure in the US* is horrible and a lot of people outside of major urban areas have shitternet that makes streaming games laggy and unreliable. Unless they spend serious money upgrading infrastructure, it's just going to be Stadia 2.0. Except even then people still really do not like gaming as a service so it'll probably fail again anyway.

    *I don't know how good other countries' internet is but I would include them if I did.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    My internet is fine, good bandwith, good latency. But even then cloud gaming introduces delays i am a) not accostumed to and b) not tolerant of.

    I do not want to have 100ms delay between my action and seeing the reaction. I do not want to be dependent on perfect connectivity to achieve even this delay, making every small issue which would only annoy me while browsing make my gaming hell. Even Bluetooth for my controller is too much delay for me when playing stuff like Dead Cells - it's either a dedicated receiver or cable-bound. Everyone who actually wants to play something fast paced can't be happy with cloud gaming. Well, the turn based strategy crowd might be tolerant of that, but i will never be until my body is too broken to play anything faster than solitaire.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    the gaming upgrade market was kinda ridiculous anyway.

    We dont need new, more powerful GPUs every 12/16 months

    GPUs should, like, a new GPU every 5 years at a bare minium. New Cards being churned out every year is why gaming is shit, because theres no time for devs to learn, to optimize..instead they just target apis and get it out, and tell us use DLSS/FSR3 if performance is shit, even at 1080p there are still games they expect us to use stupid ass scaling to make playable.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Yeah. Console optimization used to be a real thing they should bring to PCs. Tomb Raider 2013 and Battlefield 3/4 on the Xbox 360 managed visuals and performance that an equivalently-speced PC from 2005 wouldn't have been anywhere close to handling.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 month ago (6 children)
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    [–] 54 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    As a kid I used to basically only play emulator games because I didn't have money for a real gpu. As an adult I basically only play indie games cause AAA games are all soulless trash.

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I reached my limit years ago for games that spend a bazillion $ on graphics, but their gameplay is just running from cutscene to cutscene with barely engaging combat in between.

    Indie games tend to be actually fun.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Fr. I was playing corekeeper with a friend and randomly found a really pretty oasis mini biome, it had no 'use' but it was a chill safe area I found by accident, you could tell the devs just wanted you to enjoy their game. It feels so nice to play something that isnt trying to milk you for money at every corner!

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  • [–] 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Time to catch up on some older games you missed. More fun for less money.

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    [–] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Any company making games where they're pushing graphics into top graphics card territory for no good gameplay reason can go straight to hell in 2026.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago

    I'll be DEAD and BURIED before I play PC games that require a 1000W PSU-powered graphics card.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Mine don't even show up as minimum. I game on a Thinkpad.
    Doesn't keep me from playing those games. Granted, at low settings, 1280x720 resolution and 25 FPS, but the story is still the same.

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    [–] 30 points 1 month ago

    ***still ignores backlog

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Huh? Retro GPUs are like the 8800, right? The 1080ti is still pretty new, right?!

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    This Steam Next Fest killed Unreal Engine for me.

    Every single game with that splash screen ended up as a slide show, and not even prettier, I play 15 years old games that look better than most games I saw coming from UE5.

    I used to recommend Unreal 4 for everyone, but they are already going for 6 without optimizing the 5.

    No need to upgrade, just give a chance to other games, devs and engines that cares for their customers.

    I got into Cassette Beasts a while ago and notice all Godot games run well on Steam Deck and my older hardware. Cry Engine looks beautiful and still run well on stuff.

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    [–] 22 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Ok, I'm not a gamer, and I have a real honest question: we had fun with gamesetsin the 90's. We had LAN games in the 2000's, and over Internet quickly after. People were spending hours, days playing. Each new GPU was so much better, sharper pictures, "so realistic", etc.

    Are you genuinely having more fun now than with good games from 10years ago? Even 15years ago??

    Because it looks like this whole requirements thing is pure marketing, and studios needing to keep selling: "Look, shinier graphics that will make the previous generation of games you loved and found incredibly sharp and detailed when theé came out look mild and of bad quality now!"

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Maybe that's the silver lining. If AI companies are the main customers of GPUs, not us, then they won't need to keep up-selling us every year with nonsense.

    Back in the 90s, most people didn't have PCs because they were PC gamers. They just played games on their normal PC, and game devs tried to make games that would run on anything. If the average person has old hardware, then game devs will be incentivized to build to that.

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    [–] 20 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Most of the actually good games don't need strong hardware.

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    [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    Upgrade to Linux to extend the life another ten years.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Nowadays, if it doesn't run on my Steam Deck I'm not playing it 🤷🏼 too many games to play still anyways...

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    [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    Still can run stardew valley and factorio just fine. But yeah, the prices are crazy. Thankfully indie games are not that demanding.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    A house may be large or small; as long as the neighboring houses are likewise small, it satisfies all social requirement for a residence. But let there arise next to the little house a palace, and the little house shrinks to a hut. The little house now makes it clear that its inmate has no social position at all to maintain, or but a very insignificant one; and however high it may shoot up in the course of civilization, if the neighboring palace rises in equal or even in greater measure, the occupant of the relatively little house will always find himself more uncomfortable, more dissatisfied, more cramped within his four walls.

    An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature.

    kmarx wagelabor and capital

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    I remember thinking that the 3090 is ridiculously expensive. Today, a 5080 bought for almost as much seems reasonable.

    We are being conditioned.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago*

    All part of the plan, so you subscribe to game streaming.

    7900s, 4090s, and 5090s will become “forbidden technology” like you see in post apocalyptic fantasy where tech is magic. But also “idoocracy cyberpunk,” as human production is diverted to launching GPUs in space which engineers… awkwardly task with busywork.

    You think I’m being hyperbolic. I am not.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    software that uses excessive amounts of resources is usually poorly written and shouldn't be used in the first place, so don't worry, you're not missing out on anything important :)

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    [–] 9 points 1 month ago*

    Don't worry, gpus don't have much growth anymore anyway, next generation of cards will be incremental. The green company has not been able to truely innovate since the 1080ti so anything you get now will be relevant for a very very very long time. Hence why they've had to change to enterprise customers to keep line going up with empty over hyped promises in ai. It will come to an end when shareholders demand returns on investment. Pop.

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