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[–] 143 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On france, we currently have one with 2.1M signatures, gov still said nope (petition against reintroduction of dangerous pesticide, backed by sciencists community)

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  • [–] 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Don't you guys have a more effective way of convincing the government?

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    [–] 70 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    I signed the petition but I had zero belief it would actually result in anything.

    We don't actually live in a democracy, that's just something they tell us while they do whatever the bloody hell they want.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    reminds me of my philosophy teacher arguing against someone because my teacher said that we don't live in a democracy, but a lot of people disagreed.

    i still remember the look of disapointment in their face, since they had just told us the definition of democracy😭

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    [–] 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I mean 122,000 out of 60 million isn’t a lot.

    Could likely get 5 million to say banning people based on colour is a good idea, but I don’t agree.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Only need 500 (out of 40mil) + one MP sign off for the government to legally have to respond in Canada. They don't have to say yes but they have to officially acknowledge you at least. I was pretty surprised by how low that threshold is.

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    [–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The purpose of online petitions is to provide a means for people to psychologically discharge their righteous anger at something and need to be heard about it, by "doing something", with a "something" which the politicians can safelly ignore.

    It's a lot harder to ignore large demonstrations and even harder to ignore people activelly campaigning at the grassroots level in their electoral circles to make specific asshole politicians loose their seats, so best have the plebes citizens discharge their anger on some automated online straight-to-trash People's Will recorder.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because there is nothing legally binding about petitions.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If petitions (= begging) are the highest level of what people can do between two elections, something about the system is fundamentally broken.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    There's a few steps between begging and guillotines.

    But yes, politics exists on a spectrum.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Traditionally it's

    • Soap Box
    • Ballot Box
    • Jury Box
    • Ammo Box

    First you talk. Then you vote. Then you use the legal system. And if things are still broken, you use violence.

    I'm in the US so I can't speak for the UK specifically, but it does feel like the rise of fascism and consolidation of power into fewer and fewer people is a real problem that won't be fixed by asking nicely.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well it does atleast force them to make a public opinion on it, it’s a foot in the door.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Which would be useful if they were also forced to actually provide a somewhat science based line of reasoning for their answer. But in reality its gonna be completely made up reasons not based on any facts.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Yup, it can be a way of getting a discussion started

    For Canada the rules are as follows:

    The Standing Orders of the House of Commons require the government to respond to every petition presented to the House within 45 calendar days. If the House is not sitting on that day, the response must be presented at the next sitting of the House.

    The petitioner, supporters, signatories, and the member of Parliament who authorized the online publication of the e-petition will be notified by email when the response is tabled in the House. A copy will also be found on the petitions website along with the original petition.

    https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Home/AboutContent?guide=PIElectronicGuide

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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    The petition to reverse Brexit got something like 4 million signatures. Response: LOL No.

    Brexit it's referendum because the Tories were scared of loosing power to Frog Face Faeage's party. So they did a bit of appeasement.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Scotland stopped voting Labour into power over a decade ago. If only England had the balls to do it too. Torys and Labour, two sides of the same corrupt coin. Come England, youre better than that. Starmer is a tory cunt. Vote greens, or Libdems, or anyone else buy those two corrupt scum parties.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This image is a great reflection of the entire history of the UK, incidentally.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Pretty much - we all put our names to them, but they do nothing.

    The best option is to organise writing campaigns to your local MP and indicate that this is the decider on your vote.

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