▲ 1102 ▼ Every UK petition (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world 96 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Thats why guillotines exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) There's a few steps between begging and guillotines. But yes, politics exists on a spectrum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 year ago (3 children) Traditionally it's Soap Box Ballot Box Jury Box Ammo Box First you talk. Then you vote. Then you use the legal system. And if things are still broken, you use violence. I'm in the US so I can't speak for the UK specifically, but it does feel like the rise of fascism and consolidation of power into fewer and fewer people is a real problem that won't be fixed by asking nicely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Things aren't getting worse in the UK, they're just staying exactly the same as they've always been. There are two parties and they're both basically identical to each other and they just keep swapping every decade or so. The Conservatives crash the economy, mostly due to piss-pour economic handling and welfare cuts, eventually everyone gets irritated with them and boots them out. Labour proceeds to blame the conservatives for the economic mess for the next 10 years, fail to really achieve anything of any significance due to the inevitable infighting (they've already started), and eventually lose power to the conservatives. Then the entire story mess repeats itself. You get five or six rounds of this and then all the current lot die and you replace them with a new bunch of idiots. Seriously this crap goes all the way back to the 1930s. We never get a break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago Hi! Trans and queer person from the UK here. Shit's gotten worse, bro. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Things are getting worse in the UK in terms of wealth inequality, living standards, civil rights and democratic freedom. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xylol@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago What if we give them money so they stop taking our money permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Soap Box Ballot Box Jury Box Ammo Box Pine Box permalink fedilink source parent [–] sxan@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Like, gallows? Is gallows a step? Where do pitchforks come in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Petitions Protests Pitchforks Prison permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago Pguilletines permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago For the final P, we borrow from Estonian: Poomine permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I figure gallows and guillotines are in the same bucket. Pitchforks a step or two before that. I'm a little annoyed that General Strikes and other forms of economic deterrence aren't on the list. You'd be surprised how far you can get when you threaten the profit margin. A lot of these guys will cave in a matter of weeks when they realize they might not have the money for a new yacht. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Those would be great. 50501 is trying hard with the protests, but without media coverage they just get swallowed. And I can only think that strikes aren't happening because of a combination that the labor economy is shit, and because an astonishingly large number of union members are Trump supporters. You see this occasionally when union leadership, who knows better, clash with their members. I don't think violent revolution, if it breaks out, is going to be that so much as another civil war. The rich have learned from history, and are very effective at turning the classes against each other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tux0r@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago Sadly, most unhappy people still think that laws must be respected, and guillotining has fallen out of popularity with them quite recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) There's a few steps between begging and guillotines. But yes, politics exists on a spectrum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 year ago (3 children) Traditionally it's Soap Box Ballot Box Jury Box Ammo Box First you talk. Then you vote. Then you use the legal system. And if things are still broken, you use violence. I'm in the US so I can't speak for the UK specifically, but it does feel like the rise of fascism and consolidation of power into fewer and fewer people is a real problem that won't be fixed by asking nicely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Things aren't getting worse in the UK, they're just staying exactly the same as they've always been. There are two parties and they're both basically identical to each other and they just keep swapping every decade or so. The Conservatives crash the economy, mostly due to piss-pour economic handling and welfare cuts, eventually everyone gets irritated with them and boots them out. Labour proceeds to blame the conservatives for the economic mess for the next 10 years, fail to really achieve anything of any significance due to the inevitable infighting (they've already started), and eventually lose power to the conservatives. Then the entire story mess repeats itself. You get five or six rounds of this and then all the current lot die and you replace them with a new bunch of idiots. Seriously this crap goes all the way back to the 1930s. We never get a break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago Hi! Trans and queer person from the UK here. Shit's gotten worse, bro. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Things are getting worse in the UK in terms of wealth inequality, living standards, civil rights and democratic freedom. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xylol@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago What if we give them money so they stop taking our money permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Soap Box Ballot Box Jury Box Ammo Box Pine Box permalink fedilink source parent [–] sxan@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Like, gallows? Is gallows a step? Where do pitchforks come in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Petitions Protests Pitchforks Prison permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago Pguilletines permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago For the final P, we borrow from Estonian: Poomine permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I figure gallows and guillotines are in the same bucket. Pitchforks a step or two before that. I'm a little annoyed that General Strikes and other forms of economic deterrence aren't on the list. You'd be surprised how far you can get when you threaten the profit margin. A lot of these guys will cave in a matter of weeks when they realize they might not have the money for a new yacht. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Those would be great. 50501 is trying hard with the protests, but without media coverage they just get swallowed. And I can only think that strikes aren't happening because of a combination that the labor economy is shit, and because an astonishingly large number of union members are Trump supporters. You see this occasionally when union leadership, who knows better, clash with their members. I don't think violent revolution, if it breaks out, is going to be that so much as another civil war. The rich have learned from history, and are very effective at turning the classes against each other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 year ago (3 children) Traditionally it's Soap Box Ballot Box Jury Box Ammo Box First you talk. Then you vote. Then you use the legal system. And if things are still broken, you use violence. I'm in the US so I can't speak for the UK specifically, but it does feel like the rise of fascism and consolidation of power into fewer and fewer people is a real problem that won't be fixed by asking nicely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Things aren't getting worse in the UK, they're just staying exactly the same as they've always been. There are two parties and they're both basically identical to each other and they just keep swapping every decade or so. The Conservatives crash the economy, mostly due to piss-pour economic handling and welfare cuts, eventually everyone gets irritated with them and boots them out. Labour proceeds to blame the conservatives for the economic mess for the next 10 years, fail to really achieve anything of any significance due to the inevitable infighting (they've already started), and eventually lose power to the conservatives. Then the entire story mess repeats itself. You get five or six rounds of this and then all the current lot die and you replace them with a new bunch of idiots. Seriously this crap goes all the way back to the 1930s. We never get a break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago Hi! Trans and queer person from the UK here. Shit's gotten worse, bro. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Things are getting worse in the UK in terms of wealth inequality, living standards, civil rights and democratic freedom. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xylol@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago What if we give them money so they stop taking our money permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Soap Box Ballot Box Jury Box Ammo Box Pine Box permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Things aren't getting worse in the UK, they're just staying exactly the same as they've always been. There are two parties and they're both basically identical to each other and they just keep swapping every decade or so. The Conservatives crash the economy, mostly due to piss-pour economic handling and welfare cuts, eventually everyone gets irritated with them and boots them out. Labour proceeds to blame the conservatives for the economic mess for the next 10 years, fail to really achieve anything of any significance due to the inevitable infighting (they've already started), and eventually lose power to the conservatives. Then the entire story mess repeats itself. You get five or six rounds of this and then all the current lot die and you replace them with a new bunch of idiots. Seriously this crap goes all the way back to the 1930s. We never get a break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago Hi! Trans and queer person from the UK here. Shit's gotten worse, bro. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Things are getting worse in the UK in terms of wealth inequality, living standards, civil rights and democratic freedom. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago Hi! Trans and queer person from the UK here. Shit's gotten worse, bro. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Things are getting worse in the UK in terms of wealth inequality, living standards, civil rights and democratic freedom. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xylol@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago What if we give them money so they stop taking our money permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Soap Box Ballot Box Jury Box Ammo Box Pine Box permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Like, gallows? Is gallows a step? Where do pitchforks come in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Petitions Protests Pitchforks Prison permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago Pguilletines permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago For the final P, we borrow from Estonian: Poomine permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I figure gallows and guillotines are in the same bucket. Pitchforks a step or two before that. I'm a little annoyed that General Strikes and other forms of economic deterrence aren't on the list. You'd be surprised how far you can get when you threaten the profit margin. A lot of these guys will cave in a matter of weeks when they realize they might not have the money for a new yacht. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Those would be great. 50501 is trying hard with the protests, but without media coverage they just get swallowed. And I can only think that strikes aren't happening because of a combination that the labor economy is shit, and because an astonishingly large number of union members are Trump supporters. You see this occasionally when union leadership, who knows better, clash with their members. I don't think violent revolution, if it breaks out, is going to be that so much as another civil war. The rich have learned from history, and are very effective at turning the classes against each other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Petitions Protests Pitchforks Prison permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago Pguilletines permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago For the final P, we borrow from Estonian: Poomine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago For the final P, we borrow from Estonian: Poomine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I figure gallows and guillotines are in the same bucket. Pitchforks a step or two before that. I'm a little annoyed that General Strikes and other forms of economic deterrence aren't on the list. You'd be surprised how far you can get when you threaten the profit margin. A lot of these guys will cave in a matter of weeks when they realize they might not have the money for a new yacht. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Those would be great. 50501 is trying hard with the protests, but without media coverage they just get swallowed. And I can only think that strikes aren't happening because of a combination that the labor economy is shit, and because an astonishingly large number of union members are Trump supporters. You see this occasionally when union leadership, who knows better, clash with their members. I don't think violent revolution, if it breaks out, is going to be that so much as another civil war. The rich have learned from history, and are very effective at turning the classes against each other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Those would be great. 50501 is trying hard with the protests, but without media coverage they just get swallowed. And I can only think that strikes aren't happening because of a combination that the labor economy is shit, and because an astonishingly large number of union members are Trump supporters. You see this occasionally when union leadership, who knows better, clash with their members. I don't think violent revolution, if it breaks out, is going to be that so much as another civil war. The rich have learned from history, and are very effective at turning the classes against each other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tux0r@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago Sadly, most unhappy people still think that laws must be respected, and guillotining has fallen out of popularity with them quite recently. permalink fedilink source parent