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[–] 179 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And still some people think it will be fine in 3.5 years.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It absolutely won't be.

    But it might be moving in the right direction.

    Regardless, will take decades/generations to fully recover from this, if ever.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    No, you'll never recover. Your previous status was the result of a very specific set of historical circumstances (specifically the fact that you were the only major power left standing after World War 2) that aren't going to repeat. If you fall, the best you can hope for in terms of recovery is to equal the other developed countries of the world. You'll never exceed them again.

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    [–] 140 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Or another way to look at it- cutting nearly 75% of scientists. Can't have climate change if there's no one working! Watch them find some money to give to ExxonMobile to 'study' the impacts of fossil fuels. Wonder what that report will say! /s

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  • [–] 114 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Never played a conquest game where you stop researchers from giving your empire a tech advantage over others.

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    [–] 89 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Has an empire ever been so complicit in their own demise?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Probably all empires seed their own demise, I would guess

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But so deliberately? In what world does a half intelligent person believe this to be a good long term strategy?

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Most of the US believes in this, or is just unaware. That's how its been for most of history around the world.

    ...The remarkable issue here is the elites/rules we handed the reigns now drink their own kool-aid. The very top of most authoritarian regimes are at least cognisant of some hypocrisy, even if ideology eats them some.

    The other is that people are more 'connected' than ever, but to disinformation streams. I feel like a lot of the world (especially the US fancies) themselves as super smart on shit they know nothing about because of something they saw on Facebook or YouTube.

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    [–] 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    [–] 65 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Speed running towards Idiocracy by 2028

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    [–] 58 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Hey Europe and Canada, anyone still looking for a scientist that just wants to do lab work? I prefer chemistry, but am happy with micro too. Just let me interpret data, please. I'm stuck somewhere where titrations are the most complex process.

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    [–] 56 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    That's only the half of it. Look at the rest of the policies, look how they want to cut Medicare and food stamps and other safety net programs.

    Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.

    This is the end game the technocrats have been working towards, this is how they're enacting their eugenics. They want poor people, disabled people, disadvantaged people, to die. They believe they are culling the weak members of the herd for the sake of the betterment of "their" kind (rich, white, "healthy", etc).

    These policies aren't stupid or ineffective, they are cruel and insidious by design

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    [–] 51 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    If you can get out, now's the time.

    If not, now's the time to buy guns and ammo.

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    [–] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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    [–] 47 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    As non-american I'm becoming increasingly convinced republicans are actually lead by traitors wanting to destroy the US.

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    [–] 45 points 1 year ago

    Deeply unserious managers of empire continue to self-cannibalize their own productivity in an effort to go even more all-in on financial capital, all while the global south is doing its best to pivot towards more favorable relations with countries like China. When the US Empire runs out of countries to exploit, and financial capital ceases to be profitable, it will have no developed industrial base nor a strong scientifically trained worker base to pull itself back up. The US is cooked, this is just speedrunning the demise of the empire in a faster and harder fashion.

    The good news is that the worse this gets, the more favorable the conditions for organizing become, and the more vulnerable to revolution the state becomes. We can legitimately take advantage of this, and gain mastery over capital, rather than the inverse. We can re-industrialize, become socialist, and begin the long and difficult but necessary path towards legitimate progress. It won't be easy, but it will be doable.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Brain drain is a difficult downward spiral to break out of once it starts.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    This is something I think a lot of people don’t realize; It’s a cascading failure. It’s not just that some competent people will leave the country. The rest of their teams will have to bear the extra burden and be demoralized. They will then feel compelled to leave as well.

    It’s happened numerous times in both the public and private sectors. Now they’re deliberately trying to do this shit on a national scale. If we ever recover from this, it’s going to take decades…

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago

    This is a huge opportunity for countries who always played second fiddle in science and tech.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Critical support for Trump's struggle against US cultural and scientific imperialism.

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Welcome to Europe, researchers!

    Lots of great choices and don't worry, you can move to France without knowing French or Denmark without knowing Danish!

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    The times, they are a'changing

    Death to IMPERIALISM

    Death to CAPITALISM

    Death to FASCISM

    Death to MAGA

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The country built on brain drain, assumes it is great without the brain.

    I hope the scientist find favorable places that value science.

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    Europe will welcome them with open arms.

    People starts to realize that having a higher wage in the US doesn't translate into a better quality of life.

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    A country for REAL (white Christian male) Americans.

    When are you people going to get the message. It was never a country that was about equality. It was about enrichment for a select group of people. When their privilege was threatened, the veil came off.

    None of this changes until the rest of America decides enough is enough. That might never happen. If it does, it won't be for years or decades.

    The US died on Jan 20th, 2025.

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Wait, the bottom ones are PreK-12 students.

    How are they planning to reduce the number of children?

    Is this why they hired RFK?

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Making everywhere else, great again.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Islamic golden age ended because of centuries of European crusades followed by the mongol invasion. It had little to do with a lack of appreciation for science and scientists.

    But there is only so much scholars can do, when under relentless attacks by barbarians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

    This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom, which saw scholars from all over the Muslim world flock to Baghdad, the world's largest city at the time, to translate the known world's classical knowledge into Arabic and Persian.[4] The period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasions and the Siege of Baghdad in 1258.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Why a quarter, isn't it more then a third? Edit: Sorry, i misread it that they would want to get rid of a quarter of their people and omitted the million.

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