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Ontario tables law banning supervised consumption sites, saying there will be no more (globalnews.ca)
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[–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I believe in previous threads on the subject, it was identified that forced rehab doesn't work. I'm too lazy to go find the threads FYI

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Didn't finland do a similar thing and basically ended homelessness? They housed the homeless and provided treatment. Most were able to leave the program because turns out having housing is a huge factor in getting off the streets. I'm not sure the details but they stressed the housing portion was very important, if you want to clean up and get a job, having a safe place to eat, sleep, and shower is essential for that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There is way more than 400 homeless people in Ontario.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    No forced rehab, lol.

    You're talking about housing first policy, and it has nothing to do with addiction. Well except the policy explicitly doesn't care about addiction.

    I know people addicted to opiates in Finland who didn't get into care because they couldn't "prove" they had a problem since the healthcare wanted a supervised piss test and he had shy pee so bad he couldn't. So he didn't get into rehab.

    You're idolising the Finnish systems a bit. A lot of them are great... on paper.

    I'm not saying they don't work in real life, I'm saying the implementation is shit but the policy is still so good that despite the fucktard bureaucrats, it's still achieving a lot compared to some other countries. (Cough USA COUGH COUGH)

    I've genuinely been basically blocked from life because here in Finland even recreational weed smokers are treated as complete junkies by the healthcare. Complete and utter junkies, and I'm not exaggerating. No matter how much I quote the laws and produce doctor's notes and therapist notes. It's crazy how archaic the attitudes towards even mild illegal drugs are. And the amount of hypocrisy in that, because most Finns consume quite a lot of alcohol to the point of often disabling themselves for a day or two every week.

    But yeah we live so far North allowing homeless people to live on the street would literally kill them. So that's probably why we've got this covered.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It may not for some, but some former addicts say without that they would never have broken free of the downward spiral. The drugs make you only find joy in drugs, it doesn't seem to have a solution

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    After getting clean, many addicts say giving them free drugs was the worst thing you could do for them, it just helped prolong their problems and delay their treatment. This stuff is hard because those drugs and the lifestyle that can come with it will often change people beyond what they want for themselves.

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