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i will never understand scientific fraud (files.catbox.moe)
submitted 2 years ago* by to c/science_memes@mander.xyz
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like you go to the not-believing-until-seeing convention with lies and what? expect to get away with it?

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[–] 60 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fuck capitalism!

We need housing and food for everyone, then we can all chill out and focus on advancing further.

This hamster wheel of shit is going to kill us all.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Uhhh... how will you get that food into childrens mouths before it spoils? how will you store it? also, people have always built their home. are you saying it should be given? thats not very dignified.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Dignified?

    There is a housing crisis in every developed country, millions of people are homeless while there are multiple times more empty units just because 'investments'.

    Where is dignity in that?

    And for food, we need to support local produce, ideally something like hydroponics, so we can sustain everyone for as little work as possible, leaving the option to pursue better options at their leisure.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    ok. so you definitely want someone else to provide a bunch of housing, free or cheap. I suppose you'd like that with hot water on tap, flushing toilets, a/c during summer and heat during winter because "muh human dignity". amirite?

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Before I decide you're cool or not you have to pass a test.

    How do you feel about NATO?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Not the person you asked but I'm interested if I'm passing the vibe check

    I hate that NATO exists, but I see that it has currently a purpose because other forces would and did overpower countries that aren't included in a military alliance with mutual support obligations.

    I want NATO to be a thing of the past as soon as possible but that doesn't mean dismantle it and be helpless again. It means we need to get rid of the need for a NATO.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Simple - does anything threaten the housing and food? If yes, can NATO stop it? If yes, then yay NATO. Any other case? No thank you.

    Demilitarizing the world won't happen in a night, but we all know NATO won't agree to it, so it will have to go eventually.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I would argue belligerent nations waging war on agricultural nations, for example Ukraine, is a threat to food and housing.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well there we go!

    In ideal world, things like that would not be necessary, but as we know, asking countries to destroy their weapons never leads to their prosperity... so fuck that, too.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I didn't ask about Ideal world NATO, I asked about NATO which implies the context of reality we currently live in.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Did I not answer that question in my first comment? Wait - I did.

    I then tried to hint that (as my first comment actually started), we as species should try to build a better world, focusing on providing the minimum for everyone before giving very few everything there is.

    Is NATO perfect? No, it sucks, but we currently won't do any better. Like nothing I keep repeating all over here.

    But I wish we stopped everything, and I mean everything apart from housing and basic food, to actually solve the climate crisis.

    And, ironic as it is, stopping everything would actually be the best thing right now.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Building a better world involves unconditional support of mutual defence pacts such as NATO. Once you've eliminated the cause for NATO, then dissolving NATO will make sense. Building a better world without NATO just sounds like some Putin/CCP Cocksucking in the context of our reality.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Yes yes yes, that is exactly what I mean the entire time, thank you for understanding it. We ALL should agree to forget losers, psychopaths, and everyone who want to have power over others, and focus on problems of the weakest ones first and foremost.

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