▲ 566 ▼ Steam adds new "Trending Free" tab to hide demos from new & trending (files.catbox.moe) submitted 2 years ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/games@lemmy.world 62 comments fedilink hide all child comments Great change imo. The new & trending tab feels a lot more useful now that it isn't 50% demos.
[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 149 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) To imagine there was a long time games didn't offer enough demos anymore, and now we get so much that they need to be filtered 😂 permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 2 years ago (2 children) Shovelware demos are useless. I remember the time I played the demo for farming sim and DOA:Dimensions to death on my 3DS. Those were actually good demos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it doesn't compare to old-school demos like stuff that came on discs with magazines, but at least it's a lot better getting the option to try something instead of buying and refunding everything. And at least some bigger studios and indi games are picking up on this as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For sure. But I hope they use the Steam Demo feature (same game page with a demo install button) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps It's not just phone apps, look at this shit on a big-name Steam game: Calling your free trial "definitive edition" and having the "base game" as a paid DLC is purposely misleading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Infinitus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean... Aoe3 always had some sort of a demo version. Even the original base game had it. In fact, this is actually better, as now you are able to use 3 rotating civs, not just the English and the French, which you were forced to use before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago It's more than fine to have a demo, just call it a demo rather than tricking people into thinking it's the full version for free! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) :( Why tho permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Presumably for the free marketing of appearing in the free-to-play list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it's most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am not sure what demos you mention in particular but the one I recently played is news tower and I am hooked. Just waiting for a good sale to snag the game and even stopped posting the demo mid way. I for one appreciate all the demos being put out even if it is short. Their only purpose is to showcase the full game and they do a decent job of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* I never said demos for actual decent games are bad. Just that trash games and asset swap games are and polluting the search results and library. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the current Steam publishing meta. A free demo will create traffic for the newly created Steam page of your game, resulting in more Wishlistings, which is usually the only way to be featured and seen anywhere before release for indie developers. And that's how your Wishlistings really explode and you make a lot of sales. Getting a demo out is by far highest priority for game publishing in 2024. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hell yeah. Valve is making consumer friendly practices the industry meta! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago The thing is, we don't need a demo trending page all that much. Since you says will find the demos only game store page, they ain't looking at the trending list to find them permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLongPrice@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago this is the best timeline permalink fedilink source parent [–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I have a feeling a lot of these demos were just trying to game that very "new and trending" page, and this change will produce fewer demos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 2 years ago (2 children) Shovelware demos are useless. I remember the time I played the demo for farming sim and DOA:Dimensions to death on my 3DS. Those were actually good demos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it doesn't compare to old-school demos like stuff that came on discs with magazines, but at least it's a lot better getting the option to try something instead of buying and refunding everything. And at least some bigger studios and indi games are picking up on this as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For sure. But I hope they use the Steam Demo feature (same game page with a demo install button) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps It's not just phone apps, look at this shit on a big-name Steam game: Calling your free trial "definitive edition" and having the "base game" as a paid DLC is purposely misleading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Infinitus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean... Aoe3 always had some sort of a demo version. Even the original base game had it. In fact, this is actually better, as now you are able to use 3 rotating civs, not just the English and the French, which you were forced to use before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago It's more than fine to have a demo, just call it a demo rather than tricking people into thinking it's the full version for free! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) :( Why tho permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Presumably for the free marketing of appearing in the free-to-play list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it's most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am not sure what demos you mention in particular but the one I recently played is news tower and I am hooked. Just waiting for a good sale to snag the game and even stopped posting the demo mid way. I for one appreciate all the demos being put out even if it is short. Their only purpose is to showcase the full game and they do a decent job of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* I never said demos for actual decent games are bad. Just that trash games and asset swap games are and polluting the search results and library. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it doesn't compare to old-school demos like stuff that came on discs with magazines, but at least it's a lot better getting the option to try something instead of buying and refunding everything. And at least some bigger studios and indi games are picking up on this as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For sure. But I hope they use the Steam Demo feature (same game page with a demo install button) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps It's not just phone apps, look at this shit on a big-name Steam game: Calling your free trial "definitive edition" and having the "base game" as a paid DLC is purposely misleading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Infinitus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean... Aoe3 always had some sort of a demo version. Even the original base game had it. In fact, this is actually better, as now you are able to use 3 rotating civs, not just the English and the French, which you were forced to use before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago It's more than fine to have a demo, just call it a demo rather than tricking people into thinking it's the full version for free! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) :( Why tho permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Presumably for the free marketing of appearing in the free-to-play list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it's most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For sure. But I hope they use the Steam Demo feature (same game page with a demo install button) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps It's not just phone apps, look at this shit on a big-name Steam game: Calling your free trial "definitive edition" and having the "base game" as a paid DLC is purposely misleading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Infinitus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean... Aoe3 always had some sort of a demo version. Even the original base game had it. In fact, this is actually better, as now you are able to use 3 rotating civs, not just the English and the French, which you were forced to use before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago It's more than fine to have a demo, just call it a demo rather than tricking people into thinking it's the full version for free! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) :( Why tho permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Presumably for the free marketing of appearing in the free-to-play list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it's most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps It's not just phone apps, look at this shit on a big-name Steam game: Calling your free trial "definitive edition" and having the "base game" as a paid DLC is purposely misleading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Infinitus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean... Aoe3 always had some sort of a demo version. Even the original base game had it. In fact, this is actually better, as now you are able to use 3 rotating civs, not just the English and the French, which you were forced to use before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago It's more than fine to have a demo, just call it a demo rather than tricking people into thinking it's the full version for free! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) :( Why tho permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Presumably for the free marketing of appearing in the free-to-play list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it's most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Infinitus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean... Aoe3 always had some sort of a demo version. Even the original base game had it. In fact, this is actually better, as now you are able to use 3 rotating civs, not just the English and the French, which you were forced to use before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago It's more than fine to have a demo, just call it a demo rather than tricking people into thinking it's the full version for free! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago It's more than fine to have a demo, just call it a demo rather than tricking people into thinking it's the full version for free! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) :( Why tho permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Presumably for the free marketing of appearing in the free-to-play list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it's most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Presumably for the free marketing of appearing in the free-to-play list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it's most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it's most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am not sure what demos you mention in particular but the one I recently played is news tower and I am hooked. Just waiting for a good sale to snag the game and even stopped posting the demo mid way. I for one appreciate all the demos being put out even if it is short. Their only purpose is to showcase the full game and they do a decent job of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* I never said demos for actual decent games are bad. Just that trash games and asset swap games are and polluting the search results and library. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* I never said demos for actual decent games are bad. Just that trash games and asset swap games are and polluting the search results and library. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the current Steam publishing meta. A free demo will create traffic for the newly created Steam page of your game, resulting in more Wishlistings, which is usually the only way to be featured and seen anywhere before release for indie developers. And that's how your Wishlistings really explode and you make a lot of sales. Getting a demo out is by far highest priority for game publishing in 2024. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hell yeah. Valve is making consumer friendly practices the industry meta! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago The thing is, we don't need a demo trending page all that much. Since you says will find the demos only game store page, they ain't looking at the trending list to find them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hell yeah. Valve is making consumer friendly practices the industry meta! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago The thing is, we don't need a demo trending page all that much. Since you says will find the demos only game store page, they ain't looking at the trending list to find them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago The thing is, we don't need a demo trending page all that much. Since you says will find the demos only game store page, they ain't looking at the trending list to find them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLongPrice@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago this is the best timeline permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I have a feeling a lot of these demos were just trying to game that very "new and trending" page, and this change will produce fewer demos. permalink fedilink source parent