▲ 202 ▼ Stellaris gets a DLC about AI that features AI-created voices, director insists it's 'ethical' and 'we're pretty good at exploring dystopian sci-fi and don't want to end up there ourselves' (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 2 years ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/games@lemmy.world 87 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] hrtgnt@szmer.info 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) yea, see i just don't like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor???? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) Manual labor has been being automated since the industrial revolution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Okay but I still have to fold my own laundry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Womble@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) And do you wash your clothes in a bucket, wring them out in a mangler before beating your rugs with a stick to get the dust out of them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And I don't make my own paints either when doing art. I still agree with the basic original point: It is disappointing that we're currently automating creativity far faster than manual labour. I'm angry that my art is getting automated away faster than my folding of laundry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's not; you're just looking at the beginning of automating creativity when labor automation has been going on for over a hundred years. The introduction of new tech is always more disruptive than refining established tech. Besides which, VA is particularly sensitive to disruption because every VA does essentially the same job- one AI can be programmed to speak in thousands (millions?) of different voices, whereas one manual labor job doesn't necessarily require the same actions as another. Also it's funny you complain about laundry, given how much doing laundry has been automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* The original point being: yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor??? emphasis mine, but this is just incorrect. Technology has been reducing the need for manual labour (or rather increasing the amount of useful work done with manual labour) since the wheel and the plow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.de -1 points 2 years ago And people still have to lift heavy shit, crawl around in dangerous spaces and generally harm their health to make a living. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) Manual labor has been being automated since the industrial revolution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Okay but I still have to fold my own laundry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Womble@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) And do you wash your clothes in a bucket, wring them out in a mangler before beating your rugs with a stick to get the dust out of them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And I don't make my own paints either when doing art. I still agree with the basic original point: It is disappointing that we're currently automating creativity far faster than manual labour. I'm angry that my art is getting automated away faster than my folding of laundry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's not; you're just looking at the beginning of automating creativity when labor automation has been going on for over a hundred years. The introduction of new tech is always more disruptive than refining established tech. Besides which, VA is particularly sensitive to disruption because every VA does essentially the same job- one AI can be programmed to speak in thousands (millions?) of different voices, whereas one manual labor job doesn't necessarily require the same actions as another. Also it's funny you complain about laundry, given how much doing laundry has been automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* The original point being: yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor??? emphasis mine, but this is just incorrect. Technology has been reducing the need for manual labour (or rather increasing the amount of useful work done with manual labour) since the wheel and the plow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.de -1 points 2 years ago And people still have to lift heavy shit, crawl around in dangerous spaces and generally harm their health to make a living. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Okay but I still have to fold my own laundry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Womble@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) And do you wash your clothes in a bucket, wring them out in a mangler before beating your rugs with a stick to get the dust out of them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And I don't make my own paints either when doing art. I still agree with the basic original point: It is disappointing that we're currently automating creativity far faster than manual labour. I'm angry that my art is getting automated away faster than my folding of laundry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's not; you're just looking at the beginning of automating creativity when labor automation has been going on for over a hundred years. The introduction of new tech is always more disruptive than refining established tech. Besides which, VA is particularly sensitive to disruption because every VA does essentially the same job- one AI can be programmed to speak in thousands (millions?) of different voices, whereas one manual labor job doesn't necessarily require the same actions as another. Also it's funny you complain about laundry, given how much doing laundry has been automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* The original point being: yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor??? emphasis mine, but this is just incorrect. Technology has been reducing the need for manual labour (or rather increasing the amount of useful work done with manual labour) since the wheel and the plow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Womble@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) And do you wash your clothes in a bucket, wring them out in a mangler before beating your rugs with a stick to get the dust out of them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And I don't make my own paints either when doing art. I still agree with the basic original point: It is disappointing that we're currently automating creativity far faster than manual labour. I'm angry that my art is getting automated away faster than my folding of laundry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's not; you're just looking at the beginning of automating creativity when labor automation has been going on for over a hundred years. The introduction of new tech is always more disruptive than refining established tech. Besides which, VA is particularly sensitive to disruption because every VA does essentially the same job- one AI can be programmed to speak in thousands (millions?) of different voices, whereas one manual labor job doesn't necessarily require the same actions as another. Also it's funny you complain about laundry, given how much doing laundry has been automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* The original point being: yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor??? emphasis mine, but this is just incorrect. Technology has been reducing the need for manual labour (or rather increasing the amount of useful work done with manual labour) since the wheel and the plow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And I don't make my own paints either when doing art. I still agree with the basic original point: It is disappointing that we're currently automating creativity far faster than manual labour. I'm angry that my art is getting automated away faster than my folding of laundry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's not; you're just looking at the beginning of automating creativity when labor automation has been going on for over a hundred years. The introduction of new tech is always more disruptive than refining established tech. Besides which, VA is particularly sensitive to disruption because every VA does essentially the same job- one AI can be programmed to speak in thousands (millions?) of different voices, whereas one manual labor job doesn't necessarily require the same actions as another. Also it's funny you complain about laundry, given how much doing laundry has been automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* The original point being: yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor??? emphasis mine, but this is just incorrect. Technology has been reducing the need for manual labour (or rather increasing the amount of useful work done with manual labour) since the wheel and the plow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's not; you're just looking at the beginning of automating creativity when labor automation has been going on for over a hundred years. The introduction of new tech is always more disruptive than refining established tech. Besides which, VA is particularly sensitive to disruption because every VA does essentially the same job- one AI can be programmed to speak in thousands (millions?) of different voices, whereas one manual labor job doesn't necessarily require the same actions as another. Also it's funny you complain about laundry, given how much doing laundry has been automated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* The original point being: yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor??? emphasis mine, but this is just incorrect. Technology has been reducing the need for manual labour (or rather increasing the amount of useful work done with manual labour) since the wheel and the plow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Don_alForno@feddit.de -1 points 2 years ago And people still have to lift heavy shit, crawl around in dangerous spaces and generally harm their health to make a living. permalink fedilink source parent