▲ 155 ▼ Starfield install size revealed, available to preload now (www.eurogamer.net) submitted 3 years ago by iusearchbtw@lemmy.sdf.org to c/games@lemmy.world 43 comments fedilink hide all child comments On PC, the game is 139.84 GB. On console, it's 100.19 GB for Standard or 117.07 GB for the Premium Edition
[–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 3 years ago (2 children) I remember when Titanfall being 50gb sparked an outrage, it's a good thing SSDs are cheap now. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 15 points 3 years ago (2 children) I picked up a 1TB NVMe for literally $38 this week. Absolutely absurd how inexpensive SSDs are right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jackfrost@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (3 children) Be careful, most cheap NVMe drives have low endurance. Llike, not "Oh, you're just hand wringing about nothing," endurance ratings but an actually and relevantly low number of terabytes that can be written before the drive becomes failure-prone. They also usually lack a DRAM cache, so certain operations can be as slow as a mechanical hard drive, thereby negating the major advantage of opting for solid-state storage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago What low TBW numbers have you seen that give you concern? permalink fedilink source parent [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) They were all that price unless I went up to PCIe 4.0, which my laptop doesn't support. I got a well-known brand. But thanks for the heads up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) For future proofing it can be worthwhile to get a pcie4 drive for a pcie3 machine. That said, even if you have a pcie4 machine it may not be worth it to bother with pcie4 storage. I was annoyed about loading times with baldurs gate 3 and decided to try installing it to a RAM disk (yes, using 130GB of RAM)... Barely loaded any faster. Turns out the main bottleneck is elsewhere and my storage was not the issue permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 3 years ago It was for a laptop. I'm not going to be changing the motherboard to a PCIe 4.0 compatible one. By the time I buy a new laptop, I may need PCIe 5.0. I'm not sure, but I don't want to overspend now when by the time I need something it is cheaper. If PCIe 4.0 is more than $38 cheaper when I need it than now, then I saved money. And I doubt I'll be in the market for a new laptop any time soon. Mine is only 2 years old and still kicks ass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 3 years ago Well known brand like Sandisk? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago If you're running a database server or something with lots of writing and data you don't want to lose, I can see the concern. But a drive for gaming is the best possible use case for a lower endurance drive. Even a poor drive can write the whole thing 200 times. I doubt many people would even get close to that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) This could be a problem for console players though, especially those with a Series S which can't run new games off an external. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not if you have a PS5. I just added a $99 2TB Samsung 980 Pro to mine. Microsoft really shafted Xbox owners with their Seagate partnershit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I completely agree, Microsoft shouldn’t have been greedy and used proprietary storage. Sony did it the right way by allowing you to add your own which lets you find a good deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* Which is ironic since Sony spent two decades trying to make Memory Sticks, UMDs, and MiniDiscs happen. I think they've finally learned their lesson on proprietary storage. PS5 will also support up to 8TB of additional storage. Series X maxes out at 2TB. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Don't worry, you can buy a Starfield themed external drive that can't actually run Starfield: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-starfield-special-edition-game-drive-for-xbox-5tb-external-usb-3-2-gen-1-portable-hard-drive-white/6547407.p?skuId=6547407 permalink fedilink source parent [+] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -23 points 3 years ago (4 children) Oh yeah, let's create 250GB SSD cartridges per game because thry each cost about 26€ You know how ridiculous that sounds, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] SnepKayz@pawb.social 18 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 years ago Yes, that does sound ridiculous, good thing I didn't say it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] giacomo@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago Yes, everyone realizes how ridiculous that sounds. Why did you post it? Also, please don't give EA any ideas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I mean if you really wanna maximize your spending you can get 150 1gb flash drives and trick the OS to thinking its one device. Or like just gets bigger drive that's cheaper per GB like someone with a brain. And like how would cartridge games work anyways? most PCs have really limited sata slots permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago And like how would cartridge games work anyways? most PCs have really limited sata slots Like this? picture permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 15 points 3 years ago (2 children) I picked up a 1TB NVMe for literally $38 this week. Absolutely absurd how inexpensive SSDs are right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jackfrost@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (3 children) Be careful, most cheap NVMe drives have low endurance. Llike, not "Oh, you're just hand wringing about nothing," endurance ratings but an actually and relevantly low number of terabytes that can be written before the drive becomes failure-prone. They also usually lack a DRAM cache, so certain operations can be as slow as a mechanical hard drive, thereby negating the major advantage of opting for solid-state storage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago What low TBW numbers have you seen that give you concern? permalink fedilink source parent [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) They were all that price unless I went up to PCIe 4.0, which my laptop doesn't support. I got a well-known brand. But thanks for the heads up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) For future proofing it can be worthwhile to get a pcie4 drive for a pcie3 machine. That said, even if you have a pcie4 machine it may not be worth it to bother with pcie4 storage. I was annoyed about loading times with baldurs gate 3 and decided to try installing it to a RAM disk (yes, using 130GB of RAM)... Barely loaded any faster. Turns out the main bottleneck is elsewhere and my storage was not the issue permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 3 years ago It was for a laptop. I'm not going to be changing the motherboard to a PCIe 4.0 compatible one. By the time I buy a new laptop, I may need PCIe 5.0. I'm not sure, but I don't want to overspend now when by the time I need something it is cheaper. If PCIe 4.0 is more than $38 cheaper when I need it than now, then I saved money. And I doubt I'll be in the market for a new laptop any time soon. Mine is only 2 years old and still kicks ass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 3 years ago Well known brand like Sandisk? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago If you're running a database server or something with lots of writing and data you don't want to lose, I can see the concern. But a drive for gaming is the best possible use case for a lower endurance drive. Even a poor drive can write the whole thing 200 times. I doubt many people would even get close to that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) This could be a problem for console players though, especially those with a Series S which can't run new games off an external. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not if you have a PS5. I just added a $99 2TB Samsung 980 Pro to mine. Microsoft really shafted Xbox owners with their Seagate partnershit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I completely agree, Microsoft shouldn’t have been greedy and used proprietary storage. Sony did it the right way by allowing you to add your own which lets you find a good deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* Which is ironic since Sony spent two decades trying to make Memory Sticks, UMDs, and MiniDiscs happen. I think they've finally learned their lesson on proprietary storage. PS5 will also support up to 8TB of additional storage. Series X maxes out at 2TB. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Don't worry, you can buy a Starfield themed external drive that can't actually run Starfield: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-starfield-special-edition-game-drive-for-xbox-5tb-external-usb-3-2-gen-1-portable-hard-drive-white/6547407.p?skuId=6547407 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jackfrost@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (3 children) Be careful, most cheap NVMe drives have low endurance. Llike, not "Oh, you're just hand wringing about nothing," endurance ratings but an actually and relevantly low number of terabytes that can be written before the drive becomes failure-prone. They also usually lack a DRAM cache, so certain operations can be as slow as a mechanical hard drive, thereby negating the major advantage of opting for solid-state storage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago What low TBW numbers have you seen that give you concern? permalink fedilink source parent [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) They were all that price unless I went up to PCIe 4.0, which my laptop doesn't support. I got a well-known brand. But thanks for the heads up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) For future proofing it can be worthwhile to get a pcie4 drive for a pcie3 machine. That said, even if you have a pcie4 machine it may not be worth it to bother with pcie4 storage. I was annoyed about loading times with baldurs gate 3 and decided to try installing it to a RAM disk (yes, using 130GB of RAM)... Barely loaded any faster. Turns out the main bottleneck is elsewhere and my storage was not the issue permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 3 years ago It was for a laptop. I'm not going to be changing the motherboard to a PCIe 4.0 compatible one. By the time I buy a new laptop, I may need PCIe 5.0. I'm not sure, but I don't want to overspend now when by the time I need something it is cheaper. If PCIe 4.0 is more than $38 cheaper when I need it than now, then I saved money. And I doubt I'll be in the market for a new laptop any time soon. Mine is only 2 years old and still kicks ass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 3 years ago Well known brand like Sandisk? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago If you're running a database server or something with lots of writing and data you don't want to lose, I can see the concern. But a drive for gaming is the best possible use case for a lower endurance drive. Even a poor drive can write the whole thing 200 times. I doubt many people would even get close to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago What low TBW numbers have you seen that give you concern? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) They were all that price unless I went up to PCIe 4.0, which my laptop doesn't support. I got a well-known brand. But thanks for the heads up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) For future proofing it can be worthwhile to get a pcie4 drive for a pcie3 machine. That said, even if you have a pcie4 machine it may not be worth it to bother with pcie4 storage. I was annoyed about loading times with baldurs gate 3 and decided to try installing it to a RAM disk (yes, using 130GB of RAM)... Barely loaded any faster. Turns out the main bottleneck is elsewhere and my storage was not the issue permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 3 years ago It was for a laptop. I'm not going to be changing the motherboard to a PCIe 4.0 compatible one. By the time I buy a new laptop, I may need PCIe 5.0. I'm not sure, but I don't want to overspend now when by the time I need something it is cheaper. If PCIe 4.0 is more than $38 cheaper when I need it than now, then I saved money. And I doubt I'll be in the market for a new laptop any time soon. Mine is only 2 years old and still kicks ass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 3 years ago Well known brand like Sandisk? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) For future proofing it can be worthwhile to get a pcie4 drive for a pcie3 machine. That said, even if you have a pcie4 machine it may not be worth it to bother with pcie4 storage. I was annoyed about loading times with baldurs gate 3 and decided to try installing it to a RAM disk (yes, using 130GB of RAM)... Barely loaded any faster. Turns out the main bottleneck is elsewhere and my storage was not the issue permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 3 years ago It was for a laptop. I'm not going to be changing the motherboard to a PCIe 4.0 compatible one. By the time I buy a new laptop, I may need PCIe 5.0. I'm not sure, but I don't want to overspend now when by the time I need something it is cheaper. If PCIe 4.0 is more than $38 cheaper when I need it than now, then I saved money. And I doubt I'll be in the market for a new laptop any time soon. Mine is only 2 years old and still kicks ass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 3 years ago It was for a laptop. I'm not going to be changing the motherboard to a PCIe 4.0 compatible one. By the time I buy a new laptop, I may need PCIe 5.0. I'm not sure, but I don't want to overspend now when by the time I need something it is cheaper. If PCIe 4.0 is more than $38 cheaper when I need it than now, then I saved money. And I doubt I'll be in the market for a new laptop any time soon. Mine is only 2 years old and still kicks ass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 3 years ago Well known brand like Sandisk? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago If you're running a database server or something with lots of writing and data you don't want to lose, I can see the concern. But a drive for gaming is the best possible use case for a lower endurance drive. Even a poor drive can write the whole thing 200 times. I doubt many people would even get close to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) This could be a problem for console players though, especially those with a Series S which can't run new games off an external. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not if you have a PS5. I just added a $99 2TB Samsung 980 Pro to mine. Microsoft really shafted Xbox owners with their Seagate partnershit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I completely agree, Microsoft shouldn’t have been greedy and used proprietary storage. Sony did it the right way by allowing you to add your own which lets you find a good deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* Which is ironic since Sony spent two decades trying to make Memory Sticks, UMDs, and MiniDiscs happen. I think they've finally learned their lesson on proprietary storage. PS5 will also support up to 8TB of additional storage. Series X maxes out at 2TB. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Don't worry, you can buy a Starfield themed external drive that can't actually run Starfield: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-starfield-special-edition-game-drive-for-xbox-5tb-external-usb-3-2-gen-1-portable-hard-drive-white/6547407.p?skuId=6547407 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not if you have a PS5. I just added a $99 2TB Samsung 980 Pro to mine. Microsoft really shafted Xbox owners with their Seagate partnershit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I completely agree, Microsoft shouldn’t have been greedy and used proprietary storage. Sony did it the right way by allowing you to add your own which lets you find a good deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* Which is ironic since Sony spent two decades trying to make Memory Sticks, UMDs, and MiniDiscs happen. I think they've finally learned their lesson on proprietary storage. PS5 will also support up to 8TB of additional storage. Series X maxes out at 2TB. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I completely agree, Microsoft shouldn’t have been greedy and used proprietary storage. Sony did it the right way by allowing you to add your own which lets you find a good deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* Which is ironic since Sony spent two decades trying to make Memory Sticks, UMDs, and MiniDiscs happen. I think they've finally learned their lesson on proprietary storage. PS5 will also support up to 8TB of additional storage. Series X maxes out at 2TB. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* Which is ironic since Sony spent two decades trying to make Memory Sticks, UMDs, and MiniDiscs happen. I think they've finally learned their lesson on proprietary storage. PS5 will also support up to 8TB of additional storage. Series X maxes out at 2TB. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Don't worry, you can buy a Starfield themed external drive that can't actually run Starfield: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-starfield-special-edition-game-drive-for-xbox-5tb-external-usb-3-2-gen-1-portable-hard-drive-white/6547407.p?skuId=6547407 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -23 points 3 years ago (4 children) Oh yeah, let's create 250GB SSD cartridges per game because thry each cost about 26€ You know how ridiculous that sounds, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] SnepKayz@pawb.social 18 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 years ago Yes, that does sound ridiculous, good thing I didn't say it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] giacomo@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago Yes, everyone realizes how ridiculous that sounds. Why did you post it? Also, please don't give EA any ideas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I mean if you really wanna maximize your spending you can get 150 1gb flash drives and trick the OS to thinking its one device. Or like just gets bigger drive that's cheaper per GB like someone with a brain. And like how would cartridge games work anyways? most PCs have really limited sata slots permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago And like how would cartridge games work anyways? most PCs have really limited sata slots Like this? picture permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SnepKayz@pawb.social 18 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 years ago Yes, that does sound ridiculous, good thing I didn't say it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago Yes, everyone realizes how ridiculous that sounds. Why did you post it? Also, please don't give EA any ideas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I mean if you really wanna maximize your spending you can get 150 1gb flash drives and trick the OS to thinking its one device. Or like just gets bigger drive that's cheaper per GB like someone with a brain. And like how would cartridge games work anyways? most PCs have really limited sata slots permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago And like how would cartridge games work anyways? most PCs have really limited sata slots Like this? picture permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago And like how would cartridge games work anyways? most PCs have really limited sata slots Like this? picture permalink fedilink source parent