โฒ 1402 โผ Noooooo you can't make a microtransactions free game and finished too ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world 312 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[โ] Blackmist@feddit.uk 45 points 2 years ago (2 children) Most of the Sony exclusives are the same. God of War, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima. Just solid AAA single player games, no nickel and dime bullshit. Every F2P model is predatory as fuck, and relies on taking advantage of whales over a prolonged period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (3 children) ...but I paid full price for D4 and still got a half baked game with an invasive in-game shop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not to victim blame, but if you looked at everything Blizzard have done over the last 10 years, and thought "maybe this one will be different" then perhaps the problem is you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not to X, but... [Proceeds to X] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [Proceeds to X] Sometimes, if the subject is important enough, you just have to X. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sure but don't lead by saying you are not going to do x. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I don't think this comment really deserved this discourse, it seems pretty clearly tongue in cheek to me. Not everything needs to be so dire. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Wilibus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget the battle passes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ironically I'm less concerned with battle passes as long as they don't sell power. The actual mtx itself doesn't bother me, I've easily spent hundreds in path of exile. But I prefer to enjoy the game first, and then at some point decide that I want to support the devs, and then maybe I buy something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Wilibus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it blows my mind how much I've spent on league supporter kits as well. Not sure if it is because I enjoy the game or I respect the business model. I'm not against battle passes, but there are plenty of examples of how they fall under the predatory monetization category. Not selling power is hardly a justification that they aren't unethical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I realized I had overdone it when two weeks in they were going to send me a free hoodie shipped from a different continent. At least I ran out of things to buy there. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] GenericUsername28@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm as frustrated with D4 as the next guy, but I'd hardly call their in-game shop invasive. Their MTX has been minor and cosmetic thus far. There are far better examples including one within the Diablo universe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The shop had an un-clearable red alert notification any time they released a new skin for your character chat. The only way to clear it was to open the shop and scroll to find the new item and click on it, opening the store page. Then when you backed out it would go away. You had to do this for every single item that was released. Maybe I'm neurotic or autistic or OCD or all three but those stupid red alerts trigger me and I need to clear them all to keep playing the game. I don't even want the fucking store in my game. Give me an option to turn it off for fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago While not exactly their in-game shop... https://gamingideology.com/2023/07/25/diablo-iv-unleashes-player-rage-with-a-single-button-press-blizzard-scrambles-to-tackle-urgent-response/ permalink fedilink source parent [โ] msage@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago Dota 2 did it really well, it was and still is an amazing game, and you couldn't pay to get any gameplay advantage. I sank a lot of money into it just to support such system. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (3 children) ...but I paid full price for D4 and still got a half baked game with an invasive in-game shop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not to victim blame, but if you looked at everything Blizzard have done over the last 10 years, and thought "maybe this one will be different" then perhaps the problem is you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not to X, but... [Proceeds to X] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [Proceeds to X] Sometimes, if the subject is important enough, you just have to X. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sure but don't lead by saying you are not going to do x. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I don't think this comment really deserved this discourse, it seems pretty clearly tongue in cheek to me. Not everything needs to be so dire. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Wilibus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget the battle passes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ironically I'm less concerned with battle passes as long as they don't sell power. The actual mtx itself doesn't bother me, I've easily spent hundreds in path of exile. But I prefer to enjoy the game first, and then at some point decide that I want to support the devs, and then maybe I buy something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Wilibus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it blows my mind how much I've spent on league supporter kits as well. Not sure if it is because I enjoy the game or I respect the business model. I'm not against battle passes, but there are plenty of examples of how they fall under the predatory monetization category. Not selling power is hardly a justification that they aren't unethical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I realized I had overdone it when two weeks in they were going to send me a free hoodie shipped from a different continent. At least I ran out of things to buy there. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] GenericUsername28@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm as frustrated with D4 as the next guy, but I'd hardly call their in-game shop invasive. Their MTX has been minor and cosmetic thus far. There are far better examples including one within the Diablo universe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The shop had an un-clearable red alert notification any time they released a new skin for your character chat. The only way to clear it was to open the shop and scroll to find the new item and click on it, opening the store page. Then when you backed out it would go away. You had to do this for every single item that was released. Maybe I'm neurotic or autistic or OCD or all three but those stupid red alerts trigger me and I need to clear them all to keep playing the game. I don't even want the fucking store in my game. Give me an option to turn it off for fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago While not exactly their in-game shop... https://gamingideology.com/2023/07/25/diablo-iv-unleashes-player-rage-with-a-single-button-press-blizzard-scrambles-to-tackle-urgent-response/ permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not to victim blame, but if you looked at everything Blizzard have done over the last 10 years, and thought "maybe this one will be different" then perhaps the problem is you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not to X, but... [Proceeds to X] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [Proceeds to X] Sometimes, if the subject is important enough, you just have to X. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sure but don't lead by saying you are not going to do x. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I don't think this comment really deserved this discourse, it seems pretty clearly tongue in cheek to me. Not everything needs to be so dire. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not to X, but... [Proceeds to X] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [Proceeds to X] Sometimes, if the subject is important enough, you just have to X. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sure but don't lead by saying you are not going to do x. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I don't think this comment really deserved this discourse, it seems pretty clearly tongue in cheek to me. Not everything needs to be so dire. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [Proceeds to X] Sometimes, if the subject is important enough, you just have to X. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sure but don't lead by saying you are not going to do x. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I don't think this comment really deserved this discourse, it seems pretty clearly tongue in cheek to me. Not everything needs to be so dire. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sure but don't lead by saying you are not going to do x. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I don't think this comment really deserved this discourse, it seems pretty clearly tongue in cheek to me. Not everything needs to be so dire. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I don't think this comment really deserved this discourse, it seems pretty clearly tongue in cheek to me. Not everything needs to be so dire. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Wilibus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget the battle passes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ironically I'm less concerned with battle passes as long as they don't sell power. The actual mtx itself doesn't bother me, I've easily spent hundreds in path of exile. But I prefer to enjoy the game first, and then at some point decide that I want to support the devs, and then maybe I buy something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Wilibus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it blows my mind how much I've spent on league supporter kits as well. Not sure if it is because I enjoy the game or I respect the business model. I'm not against battle passes, but there are plenty of examples of how they fall under the predatory monetization category. Not selling power is hardly a justification that they aren't unethical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I realized I had overdone it when two weeks in they were going to send me a free hoodie shipped from a different continent. At least I ran out of things to buy there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ironically I'm less concerned with battle passes as long as they don't sell power. The actual mtx itself doesn't bother me, I've easily spent hundreds in path of exile. But I prefer to enjoy the game first, and then at some point decide that I want to support the devs, and then maybe I buy something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Wilibus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it blows my mind how much I've spent on league supporter kits as well. Not sure if it is because I enjoy the game or I respect the business model. I'm not against battle passes, but there are plenty of examples of how they fall under the predatory monetization category. Not selling power is hardly a justification that they aren't unethical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I realized I had overdone it when two weeks in they were going to send me a free hoodie shipped from a different continent. At least I ran out of things to buy there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Wilibus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it blows my mind how much I've spent on league supporter kits as well. Not sure if it is because I enjoy the game or I respect the business model. I'm not against battle passes, but there are plenty of examples of how they fall under the predatory monetization category. Not selling power is hardly a justification that they aren't unethical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I realized I had overdone it when two weeks in they were going to send me a free hoodie shipped from a different continent. At least I ran out of things to buy there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I realized I had overdone it when two weeks in they were going to send me a free hoodie shipped from a different continent. At least I ran out of things to buy there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] GenericUsername28@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm as frustrated with D4 as the next guy, but I'd hardly call their in-game shop invasive. Their MTX has been minor and cosmetic thus far. There are far better examples including one within the Diablo universe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The shop had an un-clearable red alert notification any time they released a new skin for your character chat. The only way to clear it was to open the shop and scroll to find the new item and click on it, opening the store page. Then when you backed out it would go away. You had to do this for every single item that was released. Maybe I'm neurotic or autistic or OCD or all three but those stupid red alerts trigger me and I need to clear them all to keep playing the game. I don't even want the fucking store in my game. Give me an option to turn it off for fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago While not exactly their in-game shop... https://gamingideology.com/2023/07/25/diablo-iv-unleashes-player-rage-with-a-single-button-press-blizzard-scrambles-to-tackle-urgent-response/ permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The shop had an un-clearable red alert notification any time they released a new skin for your character chat. The only way to clear it was to open the shop and scroll to find the new item and click on it, opening the store page. Then when you backed out it would go away. You had to do this for every single item that was released. Maybe I'm neurotic or autistic or OCD or all three but those stupid red alerts trigger me and I need to clear them all to keep playing the game. I don't even want the fucking store in my game. Give me an option to turn it off for fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago While not exactly their in-game shop... https://gamingideology.com/2023/07/25/diablo-iv-unleashes-player-rage-with-a-single-button-press-blizzard-scrambles-to-tackle-urgent-response/ permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] msage@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago Dota 2 did it really well, it was and still is an amazing game, and you couldn't pay to get any gameplay advantage. I sank a lot of money into it just to support such system. permalink fedilink source parent