From the opinion piece:

Last year, I pointed out how many big publishers came crawlin' back to Steam after trying their own things: EA, Activision, Microsoft. This year, for the first time ever, two Blizzard games released on Steam: Overwatch and Diablo 4.

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[–] 291 points 2 years ago (25 children)

I know everyone loves Valve, but it feels super weird to be celebrating a monopoly so much and so ferociously. (I know Steam isn't a technical monopoly. We don't need to have that discussion)

Gaben is old, and he's gonna retire. It'll likely be a lot sooner than anyone here is comfortable with. When Valve gets sold, or even when gaben isn't in total control anymore, things are going to start changing, and there isn't going to be a healthy, diverse marketplace to soften that.

There is a very good chance that the PC platform will be a really horrible place because of the lack of consumer choice in which they can purchase and play games.

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  • [–] 142 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    This genuinely doesn't get talked about enough. Steam is a private company and Gabe Newell seems to be the de facto "head" of the company, despite its famously "flat" management structure. There is no guarantee a new leader will have the same values or lead the same way. There is ripe opportunity for Steam to become a steaming pile of shit. I don't know about the exact ownership structure beyond Newell, but unless the employees are far more empowered through things like ownership stake in the company, new leadership could effectively destroy how things currently work at Valve to be replaced by any number of terrible business decisions.

    Gabe is old as hell. It's coming.

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  • [–] 111 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Dude, he's 61. You guys are making it sound like he's as old as a presidential candidate..

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hopefully they have some sort of transition plan for who will take over when Gabe retires. As long as they hand the reigns over to someone with similar ideas and not some business type they could be fine given they are privately owned.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Has there been any news at all on who the potential successors are?

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    It's not Steam's fault if their competitors can't make a good product. Steam is still the only one with Linux support.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There is nothing exclusive to steam with respect to Linux support. All of the things required for games to run on Linux which valve support are fully open source and even existed before valve got involved. They just threw money at the efforts and turbo charged it (which is great).

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    All of the things required for games to run on Linux which valve support are fully open source and even existed before valve got involved.

    Yes, which makes it even more puzzling that the competitors don't even try to capitalize on the success of Steam Deck and publish their own store on Flathub, utilizing the very same FOSS technologies to make the games run.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm just glad GOG is surviving. It's even closer to an ideal of DRM-free games you own. I try to buy from there whenever I can.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Gog is on life support last I checked, it wasn't profitable and they had to cut headcount dramatically

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    That was back in 21. Last year's numbers posted in May 2023 have them making a profit.

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    It's worth buying from them every chance you get. Even if they disappear you will own your games so long as you can store them, unlike every other store front, steam included.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's absolutely weird and unhealthy to celebrate it.

    Gaben is old, and he's gonna retire. It'll likely be a lot sooner than anyone here is comfortable with. When Valve gets sold, or even when gaben isn't in total control anymore, things are going to start changing, and there isn't going to be a healthy, diverse marketplace to soften that.

    This is it. Look at history and every major company in the past 200 years. Once the shift happens, it all goes to hell. And yet people are still shouting about some "Steam Victory" like wtf?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    I agree with all your points... but... IMHO some things keeping Steam honest are services like GoG and if course the High Seas, but more than that there's the plethora of other entertainment options.

    This isn't housing, air, or water. A person can just not play if it's too much hassle or too costly. If Steam or any given entertainment option isn't worth using, people just won't. There's no shortage of things to do other than play games, much less use Steam for gaming.

    I agree that we shouldn't imagine Steam will never change, nor should we blindly worship or glorify Valve/GabeN. I just think that games and entertainment generally is an arena where market forces actually work to benefit the consumer.

    Of course employment practices and company culture is a whole 'nother thing...

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    There is a very good chance that the PC platform will be a really horrible place because of the lack of consumer choice in which they can purchase and play games.

    I agree with the sentiment that Steam will eventually have a shitification, but I remain optimistic because the PC platform is more open than mobile platforms.

    GOG and Humble are existing, smaller stores. Microsoft had three stores they use to sell and install games. Half of the FAANG companies would love to get in on this space if an opportunity showed itself. If we get past high interest rates, I can see VCs getting in on this space.

    It won't be pretty and we can support smaller options now. But I don't think it'll be horrible.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    It's just fanboyism. Everyone shits on PS and Xbox users, but PC gamers weren't privy to the fact that the PC master race trope was meant mockingly and kinda just ran with it. Now they stan a corporation.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I know Steam isn’t a technical monopoly. We don’t need to have that discussion

    That's one way to swat away all criticism about the premise of your comment....

    When Valve gets sold, or even when gaben isn’t in total control anymore, things are going to start changing, and there isn’t going to be a healthy, diverse marketplace to soften that.

    Considering the fact that Steam is not a monopoly and alternate storefronts continue to exist (Microsoft will not stop selling games individually on their own store even if it's just an afterthought to GamePass but it's the same platform as GamePass), there will be alternatives to Steam if Valve turns anti-consumer. There is little actual loyalty among gamers. Just look at Blizzard: At one point their customer base was almost as die hard as Nintendo's and it took only a couple of years to throw that away. (I noticed it when the audience actually booed at the Diablo Immortal reveal.)

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yep.

    People fanboy over Steam endlessly without realizing that with time, it will turn to shit as well.

    More competition is good, and maybe Epic is shit today but if their leadership changes then maybe it could actually significantly improve and surpass Steam.

    But if it doesn't exist, then if Steam turns to shit then you're much more likely to just be stuck with shit.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Well, hold on. Why shouldnt we rely on pirates for preservation?

    Valve is the only major PC game store that isnt public. Possibly the only PC store period, tho I dont know that for a fact for the smaller distributors. The private nature is why they currently operate as the best option for users, and the odds of the other stores going private is basically zero. So when valve shifts winds, they will be the end of an era.

    Do you expect us to be able to request or rely on public companies to ever do better for game preservation and user to user trade than a private company does? You already arent pleased with valves stance, and there is no indication anyone will ever do better than them.

    Who else would ever do better? Pirates are the best option.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Preservation is a joke. Sure, for super old games sold on cartridges it works. But for anything around.. 1998 to 2010 or so? Forget it.

    Even when you owned the original PC CDs with the box, the game updates are no longer available (Developer might not even exist anymore, site is shutdown). And if you get the wrong DRM like SecuROM you can't start your game at all. Valid CD key or not (I tried it with Sacred 2, couldn't get it to run due to the DRM servers being gone. Support from the shop I bought it years ago just gave me a Steam key afterwards, lol). And of course even if you get things to run, the online servers are no longer available, so that limits it to singleplayer games mostly.

    Looking back at all the games I bought right now Steam is doing the best job when it comes to actually keep them running. GOG is a good second place. Hell, my PC doesn't even have a DVD drive anymore, it's simply not necessary.

    Having played on PC for the last ~27 years I really don't understand the nostalgia. PC gaming back then was a major hassle between physical media, manual game patching (version 1.01a to 1.01b to 1.02 to 1.1 to ..) and shitty DRM that barely worked. We can only hope Steam isn't going down the gutter, but for now they rake in tons of cash and it's a privately held company so it should be fine.

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