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Sony doubles down. Only responds to their investors, not the consumers. I've never bought a digital console title. That will continue. (www.cbr.com)
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[–] 30 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

DRM on Steam is up to the publisher.

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  • [+] -24 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    No. It's impossible to sell a game DRM-free on Steam. They always require a connection to Valve's servers to install, regardless of what the publisher wants. GOG lets you download the installer as a file that you can use wherever or whenever you want.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    We really need a c/confidentlyincorrect comm for people like you

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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Ehh, pretty sure they know what they're talking about, they just have what I consider a really bad take about it, and present it as absolute fact. Because yes, you need a connection to steam to "install" a game from steam, whereas you can predownload a GOG game and then not need a connection to install. Which doesn't really matter to most people, since they don't care about having the game use an official installer, as opposed to either an unofficial one or just archived game files, but it is a difference.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Then they're being deliberately obtuse to make a point. Valve treats downloading and installing as the same thing so needing a connection to "install" a steam game is functionally no different than needing a connection to "download" the installer from GOG and then installing the game. Once Steam has installed the game and it has no actual DRM you can just copy it wherever you like. GOG gives a much better package for storing your games but that doesn't mean what Steam does is DRM.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (1 child)

    I guess it’s the right place to ask even if it’s not really related to Sony and my move away from them.

    I download and install my GOG games through Heroic and then move them to a hard drive after I’m finished enjoying them.

    If GOG one day disappears, will I still be able to play the games that way or do I really have to separately download the offline installers which are separated in many files?

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  • [–] 1 point 23 minutes ago (1 child)

    Realistically, you'll always be able to download the offline installers from the high seas anyway.

    will I still be able to play the games that way

    Most of them will probably work, but there's no real guarantee. Depends on whether the installers dumped critical files into your system / user folders.

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  • [–] 1 point 14 minutes ago

    Oh that’s not great as it would mean that I have to download the normal game through Heroic and download it a second time to get the offline installer.

    For a 50gb game, it means allocating around 100gb for it.

    Gog should clarify that situation a bit better.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    I believe Steam games, even in offline mode, can only be run on systems where you have installed Steam and logged into it. If you copy the game files to a disc and give it to a friend, they would not be able to play it.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 child)

    You're wrong. It depends on whether drm is enabled. If it is not, then the game files on the disc would work. It is the publisher's choice whether to enable drm.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children)

    Why is this so hard to determine? I found two items online that indicated what I said was true for all Steam games. Maybe it has changed and I was reading old posts?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    Steam doesn't advertise a game's DRM status. DRM-free Steam game lists are maintained on wikis by users testing them. Most of the time they're not DRM-free, but sometimes the developer is motivated to release them that way.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 child)

    I mean yes... kind of. You can go to your library in gog and download (slowly speed-limited and broken into 4 gb chunks for some damn reason) which means no client needed.

    But steam does have games that are DRM free after that first install. Ones that you can copy directly out of the folder and put them anywhere and run. Steam no longer needed.

    There is a list here https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam although it suggests its about 600 games more that arent on the list yet.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    The 4gb chunks is so you can put them on Blu-ray discs for storage. Back in the day large games came on multiple discs.

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