Other right-wing accounts variously reacted by describing the move as Orwellian, lamenting the death of free speech and even contemplating leaving Canada for good.

Oh no. Not that. Please no.

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[–] 108 points 2 years ago (11 children)

even contemplating leaving Canada for good.

Hello, yes, LGBT person stuck in Texas here. Can I have their house please? I don't really like the cold, but if it means I don't have to feel scared about coming out of the closet then I could deal with it.

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    litter boxes

    Not who you're replying to, but fuck, I forgot about that conspiracy.

    Ughhhh. I'm not LGBT, but I hate how they are mistreated and the fucking mental gymnastics and lengths people will do to hate you guys. It's fucking despicable.

    Grindr account -> harrassment

    Jesus, that's shitty.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Some dudes play the long game to get you to open up and then they post all of your stuff on the town pages and stuff calling you a groomer or a pedo. And the worst part is that most people believe the first thing they see/hear/read so all it takes is one rumour or malicious post and your entire life in the town is upside down. Can’t leave the house to go to the grocery store without someone sneering or making a remark.

    Rural Atlantic Canada is absolutely fucked and it wasn’t even this bad 3 years ago when I moved here. Looking to make my exit plan in the next year or so.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I fully agree that Canada's not a progressive safe haven, but I think for now queer people are still better off pretty much anywhere in Canada than in Texas. Let's all agree that this isn't much of an accomplishment.

    However, I live in New-Brunswick, whose Conservative government has been at the forefront of the recent uprise in anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric in Canada. At work, I wear a pronoun pin. I've worn dresses and nail polish (as a person who was AMAB) out anywhere, from sketchy clubs downtown to Tim Horton's in rural villages. I've been made to feel uncomfortable at times, sure, but I've very rarely felt truly unsafe being visibly queer in Canada. From the perspectives of southern American queers I've read, that doesn't seem to be the experience in places like Texas (outside of progressive bubbles such as Austin).

    That's not to say the situation in Canada vis-à-vis LGTBQ+ rights and well-being isn't incredibly worrying. With folks like Blaine Higgs, Scott Moe, and potentially Pierre Poilievre running things, plus the everlasting importing of American political talking points, Canada could very well become as inhospitable for queer people as anywhere in the US. In NB, Higgs is already gearing to use the "parents rights" anti-queer dogwhistle as his main campaign issue for the next election. My friends and I have all been called groomers by anti-queer protesters, some have even had their pride flags ripped away from them and stomped on.

    Sorry this comment kinda got long and ranty. TL;DR: Shit sucks for queer people in Canada and will quite possibly get much worse very quickly but I still think we're better off than Texan queers (for now).

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    My comrad in crisis, no one in Canada can afford houses anymore. High chance they are just impoverished renters.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    2/3 of Canadians own their own homes.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hmm, that actually tracks with what I see in real life, but it's pretty impressive. I guess that's also why we have massive household debt.

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    [–] 93 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    How can the government just overstep on Canadians' first amendment rights? Don't they know what the US founding fathers stood for? The right of Canadians to say whatever they want to whomever they want without fear of any consequences!!!1!

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  • [–] 62 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Other right-wing accounts variously reacted by describing the move as Orwellian, lamenting the death of free speech and even contemplating leaving Canada for good. Some rejected the authority of the court altogether while others questioned if the judge herself had "something to hide."

    Funny how they think free speech is dead. I'm sure the there's a pretty decent overlap between these idiots and the people standing in front of Town Halls and region headquarters whining about vaccines, kickdowns, and Trudeau with 0 repercussions.

    These dumb fucks need to stop crying about "free speech" and start crying about what it is they really want - the ability to be degenerates and knuckle draggers without any repercussions.

    I openly invite all these morons to leave Canada for good. We don't want them. Nobody wants them. Go! Move to Antarctica where maybe the penguins will put up with your dipshittery. Maybe we can set up a GoFundMe to help them afford the travel cost out of here.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    This is Canada, they have different laws around protected free speech. People don't realize that the US is basically the only country that has these super broad free speech laws written into the constition.

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Good. Every time they bs without evidence, it: Destroys the credibility of legitimate claims & can cause serious reputation and mental harm to the accused. Should be criminal

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    lamenting the death of free speech

    Its amazing how ignorant they are to the fact it’s always* been like this

    * since the Bill of Rights

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They used to have a much better grasp on this sort of thing. "Is so-and-so a groomer? I don't know, but people have been saying. I'm just asking questions..." and so forth. Couching your bs accusations in uncertain language to protect you from the libel lawsuit you clearly deserve. I guess it's good they seem to be forgetting about that tool more frequently.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Gotta love Canadians that think they are ruled by American laws. Every Canadian should know slander and libel laws here are much more restrictive on speech.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    They were just exercising their right to Manitoba.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    they should all move to Russia, where they will be much more free to say what they like about groomers

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They can freak out all they like. Often someone who is trans will be called a groomer for no reason.

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