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[–] 60 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Too bad nothing will be done about it.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    This show ain't over, yet. You got a crystal ball?

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  • [–] 42 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    "died after guards held him down and he stopped breathing"

    Fucks sake AP, what's with the passive voice here? Was he holding his fucking breath??

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It's unfortunate but usually wording like that is intentional and necessary, I.E if you say "mother fuckers murdered him" you'll get sued.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    A couple caveats

    1. this only applies if you're a trusted news source - musk or trump could say this tomorrow and would win the case because they're known liars. The implication here is that anyone that can legally get away with saying shit any other way is either a small potato, known liar or if its irrefutable truth.

    2. I think in this case, specifically, they could probably say he was murdered by somebody because they already said homocide in the title

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I'm not saying they're correct in not calling it that, or that the system necessarily works that way, but they'll have lawyers to look over everything in these sorts of scenarios and they'll, usually, ask to play it safe.

    Also, re point 2, it's different to say "autopsy says it's homicide" vs the paper/journalist saying that they were murdered. Unless it's legally ruled as such (judge/court case), the news agency could be liable if they said it themselves. The headline is essentially just quoting someone else.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Lot of grey area this side of libel, especially for active v passive voice.

    The other one is when an underage suspect is a person of color you get "17 year old man" rather than "17 year old minor/child/student/driver/suspected victim of police brutality" etc..

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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago

    As did Epstein.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the 55-year-old father of four was attempting suicide and the staff tried to save him.

    ...save him...

    for themselves

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Wow, so they strangle people to death now, too. Great.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    MDCGA
    Making Death Camps Great Again.

    Land of the free, home of the brave.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    And those braindead maga fucks cheer it on. "Well he shouldn't have been illegal!" "He should've never come here in the first place!"

    As if any of those excuses justify fucking murder.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm just waiting for a Grok generated video of another detainee doing it.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe another protest sign will do the trick

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I like that my Lemmy app shows a little baby chick 🐣 icon next to brand new accounts. Super handy.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Protest signs are one step up from protest comments, though I agree that the pattern needs progression across the board. 

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Sure but this online, so comments are what we have in this space.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    and it's the only space you take any action within

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Way to tell on yourself, I never made the claim you did. If all your doing is commenting, you're doing nothing.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    WHOA, Whoa, whoa. I have it on good authority that most lemmy commenters think commenting takes lots of effort. -This is based on my experience of telling people on here that "I couldn't care less" about certain issues and saying "commenting on lemmy takes next to no effort." Boy did those people try to convince me I was wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Died of asphyxiation. grrr. There's a heap of justice waiting to land on somebody. Several somebodies.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Ice out here murdering people in their concentration camps-

    New York court records show Lunas Campos was convicted in 2003 of sexual contact with a person under 11, a felony for which he was sentenced to one year in jail and placed on the state’s sex offender registry.

    Actually I'll take a pass, I'll get upset at the next one

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Everyone deserves due process no matter how heinous they are. If someone is denied due process, no one has due process.

    Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I'm perfectly ok with denying them due process

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Congrats, Trump has just designated you a Nazi ringleader, now you don't get due process. You say it isn't true, but how do you prove it if you aren't given due process? See how this is always fucking stupid? Everyone gets due process or nobody does.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I’m perfectly ok with denying them due process

    Sadly even Nazi ringleaders, otherwise Republicans will simply label those protesting ICE as "Nazi ringleaders" to deny them due process. I'm a big fan of the due process that Nazi's received in Nuremberg and the outcome of those trial against those assholes.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    This is the exact shit they want. They probably chose to murder this dude specifically for exactly this reason.

    Don't fall for it.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    speaking as someone who was raped as a child, you don't get to tell me shit. It's illegal, and I want the officers held responsible, BUT, I don't care about child rapists getting murdered. Couldn't care less, actually. Hope it happens to all of them.

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