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A Shadenfreude Morning (media.piefed.social)
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Usually I am sympathetic towards people losing their jobs. However, that goes out the window when their government is hostile and I am watching family struggle due to the trade war.

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[–] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not many innocents. They voted for this, and a third didn't care to vote at all

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  • [–] 6 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    That third voted for this by sitting out.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    voting and sitting out are not the same

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Voting third party in the general is at best sitting it out, at worst voting for the Republican, but you know that.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Republicans are part of the two-party duopoly. voting for a so-called third party is not voting for either of those parties.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    It's fptp, third parties are fundamentally nonviable in the overwhelming majority of places. It is functionally impossible for a third party to win the presidency. Due to gerrymandering and the spoiler effect most third party votes help Republicans get elected. Vote for Dems oyn the general and vote for the most progressive candidates available in the primaries. That's the only actual way in the current political system to effect progressive change at the federal level, by tea partying the Dems leftward. Anything else gets republicans elected. But on the other hand the fascism has come too far for elections to fix it any more, so there you go.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    It is functionally impossible for a third party to win the presidency.

    not with that attitude.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (2 children)

    Not in the US. Attitude is irrelevant. You either pull the democratic party left by participating in primaries or you help elect Republicans. There are literally no other possibilities.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    the only thing that helps elect republicans are votes for republicans. literally every other thing, including abstaining, does not help them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    Oh so you're just engaging in bad faith or are incredibly ignorant of US civics. Either way you've got nothing productive to add to a conversation. Fuck off.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    The people who voted for the Dumpster at least managed to take the most basic, simple first step in starting to fulfill their civic duty. I don't know if I can bring myself to laud that, but I've certainly no credit to award those who didn't even vote at all.

    If so much as 10% of the nation is engaged and has so much as a spark of competence yet cannot bear to vote Democrat, where did all the 3rd-party and off-ballot votes go? Why are those still practically a rounding error, hovering around 2% every year but 2016?

    Those who didn't vote at all ought to feel the most shame, because the laziness of abdicating all personal responsibility doesn't offer half the emotional shielding that idiocy does.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    I'm unsure how to feel about the non-voters. Im in UK and didnt vote in the Brexit thing, because I didn't understand nearly enough of the rules or regulations and was being sent contradictory pamphlets every day.

    I dont know what it looked like inside the US leading up to the election, so maybe it didnt seem as easily "maybe good vs definitely evil" as it did from the outside.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 days ago

    Why are those still practically a rounding error, hovering around 2% every year but 2016?

    who knows? could be that the media ices out all other parties. could be that political operatives have been vote-shaming and spreading a myth about its inefficacy.

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  • [+] -12 points 5 days ago* (3 children)

    Yes let us justify our disgusting behavior by grouping in innocent people with others. Feels like there's a name for that. Hmm.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    They are grouped. It's called the United States. They, as a country, voted for this. They, as a country, tolerate this.

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  • [+] -10 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Not even close to a majority did, not that even if a majority did it would justify you gleefully laughing about newly created homeless people who fucking didn't.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 days ago*

    Tough shit! You're fucking doing it. It doesn't matter why you're fucking doing it. If you're doing it because your system of governance is broken, that's still your fucking problem to solve. What, you want us to come down there and fucking solve it for you?? What are you even doing here? What stunted emotional need are you trying to meet right now?

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  • [–] 12 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Well hopefully this will be a lesson learned for the apathetic populous that allowed this to happen.

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  • [+] -15 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Indeed, some "justified" bigotry will teach us a lesson. Perhaps next time we'll try some shit like the Jan 6 morons. How about we try an even stupider version of it. Express a bit more hatred for us and any day we'll do it.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    YOU ARE SUCH A TYPICAL AMERICAN, INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING YOU LASHE OUT AT THOSE OBSERVING LIKE IT IS OUR FAULT.

    CLEAN YOUR ROOM BIG BOY AND SHOW THE REST OF THE WORLD WHAT AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM REALLY IS.

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  • [–] -5 points 5 days ago* (1 child)

    They were pushing back. Not lashing out. And here you are screaming at them about it. Alright bud.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago

    Americans need the world to scream at them for all the bad things they have done in history.

    You guys love pretending you are the good guys all while creating horrible outcomes for the majority of the world and taking no blame at all. All in the name of $$$$

    In fact you live in denial; denial of why 911 happened, denial of slavery, denial of anything that can remotely paint your country as bad.

    I could go on but I'm tired, tired of fascism at the end of my days, tired of stupidity repeated ad nauseum.

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