▲ 159 ▼ Valve's £85 Steam Controller divides gamers ahead of May launch (www.bbc.com) submitted 3 months ago by Valuy@lemmy.zip to c/games@lemmy.world 159 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 29 points 3 months ago (1 child) The switch 2 joycons are the same price, and the Xbox elite controller is more for less features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Grimy@lemmy.world -21 points 3 months ago (1 child) Ya and no one thinks those are fairly priced. Xbox and Nintendo isn't the bar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 18 points 3 months ago (1 child) The fact is that the Steam controller is way more feature rich than other controllers from major brands in the same price point. The price tag actually makes sense vs what Nintendo and Microsoft charge for inferior hardware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Grimy@lemmy.world -28 points 3 months ago* (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ericwdhs@discuss.online 17 points 3 months ago (2 children) Would you pay the same price for a Microsoft controller if it had little pads? If it had all the other little things like TMR sticks, repair-friendly construction, really deep configuration, and other hardware in the family having a track record of good software support, unironically yes. As much as I hate Microsoft, their accessibility controller was a big win. Also, it's not simping to genuinely like a company's products after using a lot of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 3 months ago Especially if it lasts like the first. I have 4x dead Xbox one controllers, and a working steam controller that's several years older than all of them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago Exactly this, the fact that Valve makes the controller is mostly irrelevant to me (the only difference is that I trust Valve to deliver on their promises, other manufacturers I might wait a few months for reviews, and especially to see it it's compatible with Linux and SteamInput). But if Microsoft or Sony, or 8BitDo had released a controller with these features for €99 I would have brought it too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 3 months ago Maybe you should avoid gaming communities if discussions about gaming hardware triggers you this hard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago Chief, I think you need a mental health break from the internet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Is this thing worth 5 third party controllers? If you're gaming on $20 controllers no wonder you don't see the appeal here, it's like someone saying "is an Nvidia 5080 really worth 5 Nvidia 3050s?", completely different audiences. Good controllers don't sell cheaper than half the price of a steam controller, so you wouldn't even be able to buy 2 controllers for the price of this. And there are plenty of controllers a lot more expensive than this that offer no benefits. Even the ones that cost half are, IMO, less than half as feature-rich, so yeah, definitely worth 2 Sony/Xbox/8BitDo controllers. Are three of these worth a steam deck? No, because the Steam Deck doesn't cost 300, only the model they were burning stock did for a little while (that's like saying the OG steam controller used to cost $5), and that model is no longer being made, so the question is are 6 of this worth a steam deck? But that is also kinda moot since it's out of stock and might increase in price because of the ram shortage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eli@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago Well since you think this should be cheaper why don't you go and make your own Steam controller for cheaper and then sell it and rake in all of these absurd profits you keep jerking off about? Because I'll be first in line buying that controller from you for $50 or whatever you think it's "actually worth". Until then I'm sorry but you're blowing smoke up your own ass with your own ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago Such a well articulated and certainly not unhinged response /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago It's as overpriced WTF you basing this on? What would you compare it to then? Or do you have the details of the actual costs to manufacture and know the margins Valves has on this hardware? No of course you don't, because you are talking out your ass..... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Grimy@lemmy.world -21 points 3 months ago (1 child) Ya and no one thinks those are fairly priced. Xbox and Nintendo isn't the bar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 18 points 3 months ago (1 child) The fact is that the Steam controller is way more feature rich than other controllers from major brands in the same price point. The price tag actually makes sense vs what Nintendo and Microsoft charge for inferior hardware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Grimy@lemmy.world -28 points 3 months ago* (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ericwdhs@discuss.online 17 points 3 months ago (2 children) Would you pay the same price for a Microsoft controller if it had little pads? If it had all the other little things like TMR sticks, repair-friendly construction, really deep configuration, and other hardware in the family having a track record of good software support, unironically yes. As much as I hate Microsoft, their accessibility controller was a big win. Also, it's not simping to genuinely like a company's products after using a lot of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 3 months ago Especially if it lasts like the first. I have 4x dead Xbox one controllers, and a working steam controller that's several years older than all of them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago Exactly this, the fact that Valve makes the controller is mostly irrelevant to me (the only difference is that I trust Valve to deliver on their promises, other manufacturers I might wait a few months for reviews, and especially to see it it's compatible with Linux and SteamInput). But if Microsoft or Sony, or 8BitDo had released a controller with these features for €99 I would have brought it too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 3 months ago Maybe you should avoid gaming communities if discussions about gaming hardware triggers you this hard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago Chief, I think you need a mental health break from the internet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Is this thing worth 5 third party controllers? If you're gaming on $20 controllers no wonder you don't see the appeal here, it's like someone saying "is an Nvidia 5080 really worth 5 Nvidia 3050s?", completely different audiences. Good controllers don't sell cheaper than half the price of a steam controller, so you wouldn't even be able to buy 2 controllers for the price of this. And there are plenty of controllers a lot more expensive than this that offer no benefits. Even the ones that cost half are, IMO, less than half as feature-rich, so yeah, definitely worth 2 Sony/Xbox/8BitDo controllers. Are three of these worth a steam deck? No, because the Steam Deck doesn't cost 300, only the model they were burning stock did for a little while (that's like saying the OG steam controller used to cost $5), and that model is no longer being made, so the question is are 6 of this worth a steam deck? But that is also kinda moot since it's out of stock and might increase in price because of the ram shortage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eli@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago Well since you think this should be cheaper why don't you go and make your own Steam controller for cheaper and then sell it and rake in all of these absurd profits you keep jerking off about? Because I'll be first in line buying that controller from you for $50 or whatever you think it's "actually worth". Until then I'm sorry but you're blowing smoke up your own ass with your own ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago Such a well articulated and certainly not unhinged response /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago It's as overpriced WTF you basing this on? What would you compare it to then? Or do you have the details of the actual costs to manufacture and know the margins Valves has on this hardware? No of course you don't, because you are talking out your ass..... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 18 points 3 months ago (1 child) The fact is that the Steam controller is way more feature rich than other controllers from major brands in the same price point. The price tag actually makes sense vs what Nintendo and Microsoft charge for inferior hardware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Grimy@lemmy.world -28 points 3 months ago* (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ericwdhs@discuss.online 17 points 3 months ago (2 children) Would you pay the same price for a Microsoft controller if it had little pads? If it had all the other little things like TMR sticks, repair-friendly construction, really deep configuration, and other hardware in the family having a track record of good software support, unironically yes. As much as I hate Microsoft, their accessibility controller was a big win. Also, it's not simping to genuinely like a company's products after using a lot of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 3 months ago Especially if it lasts like the first. I have 4x dead Xbox one controllers, and a working steam controller that's several years older than all of them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago Exactly this, the fact that Valve makes the controller is mostly irrelevant to me (the only difference is that I trust Valve to deliver on their promises, other manufacturers I might wait a few months for reviews, and especially to see it it's compatible with Linux and SteamInput). But if Microsoft or Sony, or 8BitDo had released a controller with these features for €99 I would have brought it too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 3 months ago Maybe you should avoid gaming communities if discussions about gaming hardware triggers you this hard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago Chief, I think you need a mental health break from the internet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Is this thing worth 5 third party controllers? If you're gaming on $20 controllers no wonder you don't see the appeal here, it's like someone saying "is an Nvidia 5080 really worth 5 Nvidia 3050s?", completely different audiences. Good controllers don't sell cheaper than half the price of a steam controller, so you wouldn't even be able to buy 2 controllers for the price of this. And there are plenty of controllers a lot more expensive than this that offer no benefits. Even the ones that cost half are, IMO, less than half as feature-rich, so yeah, definitely worth 2 Sony/Xbox/8BitDo controllers. Are three of these worth a steam deck? No, because the Steam Deck doesn't cost 300, only the model they were burning stock did for a little while (that's like saying the OG steam controller used to cost $5), and that model is no longer being made, so the question is are 6 of this worth a steam deck? But that is also kinda moot since it's out of stock and might increase in price because of the ram shortage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eli@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago Well since you think this should be cheaper why don't you go and make your own Steam controller for cheaper and then sell it and rake in all of these absurd profits you keep jerking off about? Because I'll be first in line buying that controller from you for $50 or whatever you think it's "actually worth". Until then I'm sorry but you're blowing smoke up your own ass with your own ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago Such a well articulated and certainly not unhinged response /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago It's as overpriced WTF you basing this on? What would you compare it to then? Or do you have the details of the actual costs to manufacture and know the margins Valves has on this hardware? No of course you don't, because you are talking out your ass..... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Grimy@lemmy.world -28 points 3 months ago* (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ericwdhs@discuss.online 17 points 3 months ago (2 children) Would you pay the same price for a Microsoft controller if it had little pads? If it had all the other little things like TMR sticks, repair-friendly construction, really deep configuration, and other hardware in the family having a track record of good software support, unironically yes. As much as I hate Microsoft, their accessibility controller was a big win. Also, it's not simping to genuinely like a company's products after using a lot of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 3 months ago Especially if it lasts like the first. I have 4x dead Xbox one controllers, and a working steam controller that's several years older than all of them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago Exactly this, the fact that Valve makes the controller is mostly irrelevant to me (the only difference is that I trust Valve to deliver on their promises, other manufacturers I might wait a few months for reviews, and especially to see it it's compatible with Linux and SteamInput). But if Microsoft or Sony, or 8BitDo had released a controller with these features for €99 I would have brought it too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 3 months ago Maybe you should avoid gaming communities if discussions about gaming hardware triggers you this hard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago Chief, I think you need a mental health break from the internet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Is this thing worth 5 third party controllers? If you're gaming on $20 controllers no wonder you don't see the appeal here, it's like someone saying "is an Nvidia 5080 really worth 5 Nvidia 3050s?", completely different audiences. Good controllers don't sell cheaper than half the price of a steam controller, so you wouldn't even be able to buy 2 controllers for the price of this. And there are plenty of controllers a lot more expensive than this that offer no benefits. Even the ones that cost half are, IMO, less than half as feature-rich, so yeah, definitely worth 2 Sony/Xbox/8BitDo controllers. Are three of these worth a steam deck? No, because the Steam Deck doesn't cost 300, only the model they were burning stock did for a little while (that's like saying the OG steam controller used to cost $5), and that model is no longer being made, so the question is are 6 of this worth a steam deck? But that is also kinda moot since it's out of stock and might increase in price because of the ram shortage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eli@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago Well since you think this should be cheaper why don't you go and make your own Steam controller for cheaper and then sell it and rake in all of these absurd profits you keep jerking off about? Because I'll be first in line buying that controller from you for $50 or whatever you think it's "actually worth". Until then I'm sorry but you're blowing smoke up your own ass with your own ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago Such a well articulated and certainly not unhinged response /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago It's as overpriced WTF you basing this on? What would you compare it to then? Or do you have the details of the actual costs to manufacture and know the margins Valves has on this hardware? No of course you don't, because you are talking out your ass..... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ericwdhs@discuss.online 17 points 3 months ago (2 children) Would you pay the same price for a Microsoft controller if it had little pads? If it had all the other little things like TMR sticks, repair-friendly construction, really deep configuration, and other hardware in the family having a track record of good software support, unironically yes. As much as I hate Microsoft, their accessibility controller was a big win. Also, it's not simping to genuinely like a company's products after using a lot of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 3 months ago Especially if it lasts like the first. I have 4x dead Xbox one controllers, and a working steam controller that's several years older than all of them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago Exactly this, the fact that Valve makes the controller is mostly irrelevant to me (the only difference is that I trust Valve to deliver on their promises, other manufacturers I might wait a few months for reviews, and especially to see it it's compatible with Linux and SteamInput). But if Microsoft or Sony, or 8BitDo had released a controller with these features for €99 I would have brought it too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 3 months ago Especially if it lasts like the first. I have 4x dead Xbox one controllers, and a working steam controller that's several years older than all of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago Exactly this, the fact that Valve makes the controller is mostly irrelevant to me (the only difference is that I trust Valve to deliver on their promises, other manufacturers I might wait a few months for reviews, and especially to see it it's compatible with Linux and SteamInput). But if Microsoft or Sony, or 8BitDo had released a controller with these features for €99 I would have brought it too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 3 months ago Maybe you should avoid gaming communities if discussions about gaming hardware triggers you this hard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago Chief, I think you need a mental health break from the internet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Is this thing worth 5 third party controllers? If you're gaming on $20 controllers no wonder you don't see the appeal here, it's like someone saying "is an Nvidia 5080 really worth 5 Nvidia 3050s?", completely different audiences. Good controllers don't sell cheaper than half the price of a steam controller, so you wouldn't even be able to buy 2 controllers for the price of this. And there are plenty of controllers a lot more expensive than this that offer no benefits. Even the ones that cost half are, IMO, less than half as feature-rich, so yeah, definitely worth 2 Sony/Xbox/8BitDo controllers. Are three of these worth a steam deck? No, because the Steam Deck doesn't cost 300, only the model they were burning stock did for a little while (that's like saying the OG steam controller used to cost $5), and that model is no longer being made, so the question is are 6 of this worth a steam deck? But that is also kinda moot since it's out of stock and might increase in price because of the ram shortage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eli@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago Well since you think this should be cheaper why don't you go and make your own Steam controller for cheaper and then sell it and rake in all of these absurd profits you keep jerking off about? Because I'll be first in line buying that controller from you for $50 or whatever you think it's "actually worth". Until then I'm sorry but you're blowing smoke up your own ass with your own ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago Such a well articulated and certainly not unhinged response /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago It's as overpriced WTF you basing this on? What would you compare it to then? Or do you have the details of the actual costs to manufacture and know the margins Valves has on this hardware? No of course you don't, because you are talking out your ass..... permalink fedilink source parent