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From beyond the grave (media.piefed.world)
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[–] 108 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

I would say that the US is a very weird place, but then I remembered that this

is the flagship of the British Navy First British Sea Lord. She hasn't floated for literally 100 years.

So mostly I guess it's just that militaries are weird.

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  • [–] 82 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    There's also a statue of George Washington in England. Except the US shipped a bunch of dirt all the way across the Atlantic from Virginia so he would technically not be standing on British soil.

    Humans do weird shit just to make a statement.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Dracula did the same when he moved to England

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    But is Dracula twelve stories high and made of radiation?

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The USS Constitution is still fully crewed, floats, and occasionally fires a few cannon shots.

    Keeping history around isn't weird. Though I do think it should be contextualized.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The Constitution is also the only ship in the current U.S. fleet to have sunk an enemy vessel, having defeated and burnt HMS Java in 1813.

    Her nearest competition was decommissioned in 2015.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Used today primarily for ceremonial and educational purposes, only 10–15 percent of the frigate actually dates to the original construction due to centuries of repairs and restorations.

    The USS Theseus?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You're telling me no ship in the current fleet besides that old ship has sunk an enemy vessel?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I guess it's because technically the US hasn't been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just "special military operations" or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Seeing her out of her slip is kind of weird. She was accompanied on either side by tug boats, like an elderly person escorted by nurses or family members fearful they may fall over.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Militaries see a lot of value in convincing their members that they'll be remembered after dying.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Some good things have happened because people sacrificed themselves for the greater good.

    Do I wish this wasn't necessary? Fucking of course.

    But history doesn't repeat itself so much as humans just don't change.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    but what about ceremonial anime swords in the US military?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I'd like to know more

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Is she not beautiful? Do her curves offend your insecure masculine sensibilities?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    The fleet flagship of the Royal Navy is currently HMS Prince of Wales.

    The Royal Navy flagship is HMS Excellent (which is an island, not a ship).

    Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord, and also has the largest crew of any vessel in the navy, as personnel are assigned to her on paper by default until transferred to an active unit.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah that's weird. You gotta keep your wooden boats in the water like we do. Our navy owns a forest for repairing our stupid wooden ship

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    When they took our wooden boat out of the water it turned out that she'd hogged by around 500mm. Which is quite a lot for a boat. In fairness, she was 150 years old by that point.

    Now there's a vast system of hydraulic rams supporting her in the dry dock, to the point that they reckon she's better supported now than when she was afloat.

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