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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 8 months ago (3 children) The USS Constitution is still fully crewed, floats, and occasionally fires a few cannon shots. Keeping history around isn't weird. Though I do think it should be contextualized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children) The Constitution is also the only ship in the current U.S. fleet to have sunk an enemy vessel, having defeated and burnt HMS Java in 1813. Her nearest competition was decommissioned in 2015. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 8 months ago Used today primarily for ceremonial and educational purposes, only 10–15 percent of the frigate actually dates to the original construction due to centuries of repairs and restorations. The USS Theseus? permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) You're telling me no ship in the current fleet besides that old ship has sunk an enemy vessel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (2 children) I guess it's because technically the US hasn't been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just "special military operations" or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel” permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 point 8 months ago They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago What about all those Venezuelan ships? permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago They focus mainly on murdering innocent civilians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent [–] HearTwoTalk@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) Seeing her out of her slip is kind of weird. She was accompanied on either side by tug boats, like an elderly person escorted by nurses or family members fearful they may fall over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) US Navy sails the Constitution up to a Russian submarine. Fires full broadside. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Ukraine credited with sinking another Russian submarine permalink fedilink source parent [–] djdarren@piefed.social 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) Ah, I'm mostly joking. Victory is a really cool museum, almost as cool as the wreck of the Mary Rose that's displayed in a building next to her. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children) The Constitution is also the only ship in the current U.S. fleet to have sunk an enemy vessel, having defeated and burnt HMS Java in 1813. Her nearest competition was decommissioned in 2015. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 8 months ago Used today primarily for ceremonial and educational purposes, only 10–15 percent of the frigate actually dates to the original construction due to centuries of repairs and restorations. The USS Theseus? permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) You're telling me no ship in the current fleet besides that old ship has sunk an enemy vessel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (2 children) I guess it's because technically the US hasn't been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just "special military operations" or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel” permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 point 8 months ago They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago What about all those Venezuelan ships? permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago They focus mainly on murdering innocent civilians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 8 months ago Used today primarily for ceremonial and educational purposes, only 10–15 percent of the frigate actually dates to the original construction due to centuries of repairs and restorations. The USS Theseus? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) You're telling me no ship in the current fleet besides that old ship has sunk an enemy vessel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (2 children) I guess it's because technically the US hasn't been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just "special military operations" or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel” permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 point 8 months ago They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago What about all those Venezuelan ships? permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago They focus mainly on murdering innocent civilians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (2 children) I guess it's because technically the US hasn't been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just "special military operations" or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel” permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 point 8 months ago They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago What about all those Venezuelan ships? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel” permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 point 8 months ago They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel” permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 point 8 months ago They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 point 8 months ago They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago What about all those Venezuelan ships? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago They focus mainly on murdering innocent civilians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HearTwoTalk@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) Seeing her out of her slip is kind of weird. She was accompanied on either side by tug boats, like an elderly person escorted by nurses or family members fearful they may fall over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) US Navy sails the Constitution up to a Russian submarine. Fires full broadside. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Ukraine credited with sinking another Russian submarine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) US Navy sails the Constitution up to a Russian submarine. Fires full broadside. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Ukraine credited with sinking another Russian submarine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Ukraine credited with sinking another Russian submarine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] djdarren@piefed.social 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) Ah, I'm mostly joking. Victory is a really cool museum, almost as cool as the wreck of the Mary Rose that's displayed in a building next to her. permalink fedilink source parent
