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Canada proposes 100% tariffs on Tesla, I have an alternative: open the door to Chinese EVs (electrek.co)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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[–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These aren’t just dumb vehicles, they’re running Chinese made software, for a Chinese company, and reporting data back to China.

If your paranoia wins, then dumb EVs are cheaper than FSD. Tesla will be reporting data back to US. These are issues that only arise because you are committed to having a war on China, as bestest idea ever for Canadian prosperity. USA current war on us should be a bigger concern.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Western car companies are not beholden to western governments in the same way that companies in China are. We have laws against government intervention like that here, while China explicitly mandates the opposite.

    Sure laws can change, but right now the situation is extremely clear in terms of who we should trust.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Western car companies are not beholden to western governments in the same way that companies in China are.

    You innocent child. AI has become a national security imperative, with AI companies devoted to military applications. The most important military application is control over your throughts, just as all media devoted to US supremacy/warmongering/control over your thoughts. American companies are loyal to "national security" orders, and if that means killing you, then they will.

    To protect myself here, Israel should finish the job.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I don't live in the US and I don't drive an American made car, I'm not worried about the South Korean government forcing Kia to brick my vehicle.

    I said "western car companies" not US car companies specifically.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Correlation attacks, China is king of hoovering up data.

    Overly dramatic example: you are in the armed forces, you have a TikTok account, you post a bunch of shit that shows you are in the armed forces. You get deployed for some covert fuckabout and are told to leave your phone at home. You turn off your phone, pick up 3 of your buddies in your Chinese EV and drive to the base/airport/sea port. Dozens of people do this and by seeing the pattern China knows that a bunch of armed forces are being told to quietly deploy.

    A less dramatic example might be figuring out where politicians are by knowing where their employees are.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You are right, that if US is destined for war on China, then there are clear security risks. It is a horrible destiny that no one in US should think they have the slightest hope of winning, and then thinking it is not actual destiny could be a rational hope.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm talking about Canada and not about a war.

    During peace times it is not in Canada's interest for China to know where all our politicians are, it is not in Canada's interest for China to know where where Canadian military and law enforcement are. It's not in Canada's interest for any entity to be able to tell where specific people or groups of people are at any time.

    De-spying should not only apply to Chinese cars but all cars and mobile devices.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    During peace times it is not in Canada’s interest for China to know where all our politicians are, it is not in Canada’s interest for China to know where where Canadian military and law enforcement are

    During peace time, they will not want to assassinate anyone, or worry about soldier movements.

    It’s not in Canada’s interest for any entity to be able to tell where specific people or groups of people are at any time.

    The US has that power. They spy on allies. Insufficient enthusiasm for the empire can get you JFKd. China can't reach us as easily.

    De-spying should not only apply to Chinese cars but all cars and mobile devices.

    Yes. We'd have better chance of putting up firewalls/protections/open source solutions without data collection on Chinese EVs than domestic ones.

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