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Canada proposes 100% tariffs on Tesla, I have an alternative: open the door to Chinese EVs (electrek.co)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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[–] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They are still data hungry, surveillance machines that are allways online and gps tracked. We need cars without that kinda shit built in.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    There has been talks about forcing Chinese cars to come over disconnected. Every new car is a surveillance machine. The western brands will not be asked to disconnect anything and it will probably be illegal to do so yourself, so Chinese cars might be an actual win in that regard.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    American car company secretly send your driving data to your insurance company so they can squeeze more out from you for any minor reason they see fit. There's no reason canada insurance company won't do that. Scared about chinese car collecting your data is kinda missed the point, you should have stronger data protection instead.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'de rather China have my data than an company over here. What are they gunna do with it that would affect me?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    that's exactly what got us in this mess in the first place.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What mess? American Imperialism / Capitalism imploding on itself?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A foreign power having far, far too much control over our economic possessions. Information is a resource; what they do with it is inconsequential, we have to stop giving it away to people simply because they're our 'trade partners' right now.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So a direct consequence of Usamerican capitalism/Imperialism, got it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Correlation attacks, China is king of hoovering up data.

    Overly dramatic example: you are in the armed forces, you have a TikTok account, you post a bunch of shit that shows you are in the armed forces. You get deployed for some covert fuckabout and are told to leave your phone at home. You turn off your phone, pick up 3 of your buddies in your Chinese EV and drive to the base/airport/sea port. Dozens of people do this and by seeing the pattern China knows that a bunch of armed forces are being told to quietly deploy.

    A less dramatic example might be figuring out where politicians are by knowing where their employees are.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Nobody hoovers up more data than the US.

    Remember when Elon remotely unlocked that cybertruck recently and accessed the cameras?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Nobody hoovers up more data than the US.

    The US can't even unlock an iPhone without calling in 3rd parties. EVERY Chinese made device collects data, and every Chinese business gives full access to the Chinese government. The US government does collect data but it's no where near the scale of the Chinese.

    Remember when Elon remotely unlocked that cybertruck recently and accessed the cameras?

    He unlocked a device made by a company he owns, running software they designed on a network they operate. All that shows is that Tesla's vehicles are not properly secured and remote access can be abused by Tesla employees.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    We have roughly three million ways to say "US bad" right now, and you pick a less than true one.

    US government data collection is not on the scale of China. The US is limited in what it gets from companies. China is absolutely not.

    Yes, the US should absolutely have more data protection laws. The EU is better. China is absolutely not.

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