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Star Trek fans have held the national stereotype of being way too rabid about things for decades but they’re probably the nicest fan base in all of science fiction and the one least likely to have a large faction of them absolutely lose it over a torpedo being fired by a woman or dumb shit like that

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[–] 119 points 2 years ago (7 children)

anyone that tries to say star trek has "gone woke" or some stupid shit like that clearly isn't a fan of it and just trying to rile up stuff. I mean come on... how can someone say that and have watched the shows LOL

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  • [–] 79 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    Yeah, its not like Star Trek suddenly went woke, its been woke. First ever TV kiss between mixed races was between Kirk and Uhura. Scandalous.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    That's actually a common misconception. Not to downplay the significance of what Shatner and Nichols pulled off to get around the various censors (ruining alternate takes and such), but many TV shows did it before Star Trek.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_interracial_kiss_on_television

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think it was the first one that was both broadcast nationally in a primetime slot and where the actors were easily identifiable as having different ethnicities on a tiny TV screen. Would explain the misconception.

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    Not to mention the first black woman officer and the first black/white kiss.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    the first black/white kiss.

    ...in a drama series. This was the first:

    That's Lynn Fontanne kissing Sammy Davis, Jr. at the 1965 Emmys.

    As far as the first interracial kiss, that does have a star trek connection- Desi kissing Lu in 1951.

    On top of that, Shatner himsellf kissed France Nuyen on the Ed Sullivan show in 1958.

    https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2019/09/11/not-the-first-interracial-kiss-on-tv/

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    [–] 79 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Kinda hard to be a bigot when your favorite show is about a egalitarian socialist utopia

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    And yet it still happens. There are right-wing bigots who watch Star Trek for the pew pew space battles and ignore the rest, sad as that may be.

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I have a theory:

    Star Trek fans were some of the earlier cosplayers. Trekkies were wearing Starfleet uniforms and Vulcan ears to conventions decades before the word "cosplay" was a thing. My father has a book called the Starfleet Technical Manual published in the 70's that is basically an official guide for fans to build screen accurate costumes and props from, including sewing patterns for the various tunics and wrist-length dresses and a page of color swatches, plus dimensional drawings of tricorders, phasers and communicators.

    And the public at large in the 1970s wasn't ready for that yet.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Hands up those old enough to remember the shitfest that erupted over Janeway (and/or Sisko)

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I threw up the horns. It was nuts as a middle school girl, when Voyager first started airing, and everyone was so angry about Janeway and when I'd ask why they would turn red and shake their head, or change the topic.

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I kinda lost it when Janeway fired more photon torpedos than the ship had upon entering the Delta quadrant. Where did she get the extra torpedoes?! She's a witch!

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They figured a way to fabricate their own. Like the shuttles.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Head cannon is that 1/3 of voyager is taken up by a massive shuttle manufactory. It's never discussed but it must be there...Otherwise, none of this shit makes any sense.😬

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    They could do it in the shuttle bay, they wouldn't need much more space than a finished shuttle takes up. We know they have shipboard replimats for larger things, I figure replicating and building standard shuttle models on long voyages has standardized procedures and steps like Lego instructions. You only need to replicate one piece at a time saving on space. Gotta replace your shuttles somehow on those 5 years missions and the nearest Starbase is months away.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    The entire Dune novel fanbase is also pretty decent. I like hanging out with him.

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The Discworld fandom is another one you can't be in if you're an asshole because you clearly didn't understand the source material.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    SHUT UP WE ARE NOT THE NICEST FAN BASE I WILL FIGHT YOU

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Say that again and I'll tuvix the shit out of you!!

    (Then there will be two of you, but better, Im showing you mercy)

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Also, sorry everyone, I was a Trekkie first and I will always come back to Star Trek, but the MST3K fan base is the nicest fan base. The only two bitter arguments I've ever seen the community devolve into was Joel vs. Mike (now very moot) and "I hate Crow's new lady voice" for the most recent season. Other than that, everyone is super nice to a fault. The MST3K forums is the friendliest forum I have ever been on.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Joel vs. Mike

    Mike is a great writer but Joel by far has the better timing and delivery. Not to derail the thread or anything.

    calmly places halo above his head

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I'm out of the loop... What torpedo? What woman?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I took it as a (mistaken) reference to the scene in The Last Jedi when Vice Admiral Holdo (Laura Dern) rams into a star destroyer in hyperspace, a maneuver which destroyed both ships and made people wonder why they didn’t just hyperspace into shit all the time instead of building warships and getting shot all the time.

    It happened in the same point in the movie when she refuses multiple times to say that she has any plan whatsoever, leading to a lot of pointless fighting and was thought to have been some sort of commentary on β€œbelieving women” but very poorly executed.

    Disney spent billions to destroy the Star Wars canon, but hopefully Trek can escape such a grisly fate.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Meanwhile us Battlestar Galactica fans are over in the corner wondering why no one talks to us

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

    Completely agree.

    If I would ever be in desperate need of help it would instantly comfort me to see a trekkie or a metalhead. The average wholesomeness is ridiculously high.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    So you're saying Star Trek needs its own version of Jar Jar?

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Wait, but we already went crazy about a woman firing torpedoes. We went so crazy, we counted them.

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