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Give yourselves a round of applause πŸ–– (sh.itjust.works)
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Star Trek fans have held the national stereotype of being way too rabid about things for decades but they’re probably the nicest fan base in all of science fiction and the one least likely to have a large faction of them absolutely lose it over a torpedo being fired by a woman or dumb shit like that

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[–] 119 points 2 years ago (7 children)

anyone that tries to say star trek has "gone woke" or some stupid shit like that clearly isn't a fan of it and just trying to rile up stuff. I mean come on... how can someone say that and have watched the shows LOL

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  • [–] 79 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    Yeah, its not like Star Trek suddenly went woke, its been woke. First ever TV kiss between mixed races was between Kirk and Uhura. Scandalous.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    That's actually a common misconception. Not to downplay the significance of what Shatner and Nichols pulled off to get around the various censors (ruining alternate takes and such), but many TV shows did it before Star Trek.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_interracial_kiss_on_television

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Shatner is on that list multiple times. That man had an agenda.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    He likes his coffee how he likes his women.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think it was the first one that was both broadcast nationally in a primetime slot and where the actors were easily identifiable as having different ethnicities on a tiny TV screen. Would explain the misconception.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Late 30s here- it blows my mind that we don't have to look very far into that past for the Shatner/Nichols smooch to be remarkable.

    It's uplifting to me. This present world can be ugly, but it's comforting to think that the kiss is almost mundane when compared to the present.

    A win is a win!

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not to mention the first black woman officer and the first black/white kiss.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    the first black/white kiss.

    ...in a drama series. This was the first:

    That's Lynn Fontanne kissing Sammy Davis, Jr. at the 1965 Emmys.

    As far as the first interracial kiss, that does have a star trek connection- Desi kissing Lu in 1951.

    On top of that, Shatner himsellf kissed France Nuyen on the Ed Sullivan show in 1958.

    https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2019/09/11/not-the-first-interracial-kiss-on-tv/

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    And of course it shall always be the first kiss between a black woman and a white man in space on tv.

    I cracked up a bit at this. That was a great write up, I didn't know before about Desilu's involvement in making that kiss happen and their earlier milestone, that's quite cool.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Specifically why I said black/white. and peck on the cheek isn't consider a "kiss" by most people. (although it probably caused a stir). This was also right in the middle of the black civil rights movement which made it that much more risky.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Okay then, you'll have to go with Sammy again and Nancy Sinatra:

    That would have been in 1967. Plato's Stepchildren was a year later.

    On top of that, you have to further specify that this is only on American TV, because Gordon Heath kissed Rosemary Harris in a production of Othello on the BBC in 1955.

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