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[–] 152 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why don't you just buy a few senators and do something about it, if you're so upset?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Rich Americans have money and buy senators.

    Poor Americans have guns and take fascism sitting down.

    MMW the midterm results will enshrine DNC Incumbents as the fascist enablers they are.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    MMW the midterm results will enshrine DNC Incumbents as the fascist enablers they are.

    Can't wait for Dems to take both the House and Senate ... and then always be just one vote short of being able to do anything meaningful. As usual.

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  • [–] 81 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Yep. The "fine OR imprisonment" part means fines for the rich, and imprisonment for the poor.

    The filthy rich only go to prison for stealing from other filthy rich assholes.

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    [–] 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'm not pirating, I'm building an AI model

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  • [–] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Honestly, this sounds like the best test of copyright laws.

    If corporations can train models on pirated data, and corporations are persons, then you, as a person, should be able to infringe copyright to train an AI model too.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

    I agree with the conclusion, but that rationale is wrong. First, you can digitize a DVD. Second, it's not a double standard. You can grab copies of random stuff and jam it in an AI model too.
    Our laws are written such that it's making a copy outside of reasonable use that's illegal, and AI training only makes a copy incidentally to what they're doing and then it's deleted. It's the same standard that makes viewing a photo on an artists website legal.

    It's not bullshit because they're breaking the law, but because we need to refine the law to make it clear training an AI model isn't a reasonable usage anymore than a public broadcast of a DVD is a reasonable use.
    Trying to shoehorn it into the existing laws will just create a nightmare of loopholes and complications.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

    AI training only makes a copy incidentally to what they’re doing and then it’s deleted. It’s the same standard that makes viewing a photo on an artists website legal.

    That's not what the U.S. Copyright office says about training. They hold that it does implicate the copyright of reproduction. Meaning: If you train on a protected work without a license you are violating copyright, and if that's not a fair use then you are breaking the law.

    Training ~ viewing might be an analogy used by "AI" brands, but it is not legal reality.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    There may be a limitation if the DVD is copy-protected, as is usually the case. There's too much to read for a single comment in DMCA: https://www.congress.gov/105/plaws/publ304/PLAW-105publ304.pdf

    But it does fall under this definition (§1201):

    ‘‘(a)(3) As used in this subsection—
    ‘‘(A) to ‘circumvent a technological measure’ means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner;

    and

    ‘‘(a) VIOLATIONS REGARDING CIRCUMVENTION OF TECHNOLOGICAL MEASURES.—(1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.

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    [–] 33 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

    remember folks: the entire problem is capitalism. it can literally all be solved by dismantling capitalism and …undismantling some guillotines.

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    [–] 23 points 2 weeks ago

    False, they never bought your book.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 weeks ago

    Missed a major part: the AI companies are buying rare books, scanning them and then burning them. It's not like buying a DVD which can easily be digitally copied with hardware that most people have at home, it's so mucn worse than that.

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  • [+] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)
  • [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    I have heard in the US is illegal to bypass copy protection or encryption on DVDs which is required to digitize them.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    The DMCA prevents breaking encryption but you can still create an ISO from the disk.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago

    The AI company doesn't even have to buy it.

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    [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago

    This is why I’m just back to pirating shit.

    Especially if it’s from Amazon.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago

    Copyright laws are just state's monopoly on information, at this point.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Digitizing a dvd shouldn't count as copyright infringement unless you are actively distributing the video or selling it. Bullshit.

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    [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Haha he thinks these AI companies are buying the books.

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    [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago

    Oh no no no no you got it all wrong, you have to digitize it and then burn the CD so that nobody can ever see it unless they have access to that digital copy.

    Something something who else was it that burned books?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    But digitizing your own content isn’t illegal you have the right to backups. It’s when you choose to distribute those copies to people who did not pay for the original product that you get in trouble. This argument makes no sense.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    It depends on what "your own content" means. Ripping a home movie has no encryption to begin with so you don't break any laws. Ripping a Hollywood movie requires breaking the dvd encryption and that itself is a violation of law.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    You wouldn't download a DVD

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    [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    Exactly my argument. Its bullshit

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    It's easy. Don't follow the rules.

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    [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago

    The law overwhelmingly favors corporate entities over people. We've been over this more times than HBO Max changed their logo.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago

    A story as old as time.

    Which means unlimited corrupt folk to eat.

    Whether or not we can make long term change, idk.

    But seeing these folk suffer sure would be nice regardless.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    welcome to the real world where those in power make up their own rules and tell us to abide by whatever rules they make up on the fly to keep us powerless.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    You are reposting a screen capture of a (probably AI generated) shortform video of a repost of a tweet screenshot.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    I'm so sick of the hypocrisy.

    This defines my political stance better than any party does. I’m against hypocrisy. I’m pro fairness. For fucks sake, there’s a reason “liberty and justice for all” is part of the Pledge of Allegiance that American public school students (like me) said every morning from grade school through high school.

    I can feel a rant coming on, so I’ll just be quiet now.

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