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[–] 276 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)
  • [–] 146 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    What Texas media and social pressure told them to. That's why we shouldn't let billionaires and liars run the media

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  • [–] 76 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    That’s letting them off the hook.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Im not sure if you're calling for harsher punishments to the billionaires that own mainstream media or if you're arguing that there should be further consequences for people that fell for a sophisticated misinformation campaign who are already suffering disproportionately under this administration.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 weeks ago

    I think it's disingenuous to ignore the heavy conservative leanings of a significant portion of Hispanic households as well as any who immigrated "the right way" and are pissed off by undocumented workers.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    I’m not arguing for either, although taxing/eating the rich should always be on the table.

    I’m saying that while in the macro sense disinformation has had a devastating effect on society, I’m not ready to let those “fooled” by it off the hook. It’s the 2020s, if you’re fooled by disinformation to this degree, you’ve let yourself be fooled.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    The destruction of the left:

    “We’re pissed off at the current administration. Everybody’s pissed off down here in south Texas,” the construction executive said, noting that most Hispanics in the area are Catholic. “Remember, we’re conservative, we’re not far left. We’re in the middle, conservative Latinos in south Texas. It doesn’t make sense.”

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  • [–] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    They expected a scenario that would work out well for themselves. They didn't put any effort into thinking about whether or not any given scenario would work out well for themselves, but the Republican media assured them it would work out, so why would they doubt that?

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  • [–] 22 points 2 weeks ago

    I dunno, 200 years of American racism and past Republican sentiments towards Mexicans and Hispanics might have been a tip in the right direction.

    God forbid anyone educate themselves before sticking a knife in a lightsocket.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 weeks ago

    Thinking isn't how Trump supporters become Trump supporters. Fear is.

    Their propaganda networks told them to be more concerned about trans people and Haitian immigrants than real important topics.

    They didn't consider he'd actually do what he said he would do on immigration because they were too busy cowering in fear over bullshit culture war garbage and hyper focusing on that.

    Plus, he'd only go after the bad ones, right?

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    [–] 109 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I mean, he told you what he was tryinna do

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    I remember a video about an immigration lawyer, who also immigrated from Mexico, who said Trump was only going to go after the criminals. Therefore business would be great for her. I really want to see a follow-up.

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    [–] 69 points 2 weeks ago

    I think they missed the part where Trump isn’t about stopping illegal immigration, just immigration. Past and present. For brown people.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 weeks ago

    “It just seems now more than ever, if you’re brown, they’re gonna stop you,” said Mario Guerrero, a three-time Trump voter who leads the South Texas Builders Association. “And I know that sounds really racist, but it’s what we’re facing, man.”

    The Supreme Court essentially signed off on a Trump immigration enforcement policy to assume speaking Spanish and looking brown is sufficient evidence to suspect someone is an illegal immigrant. It is about as openly racist as you can get.

    I guess Mr. Guerrero doesn't like the bigotry now that he's on the receiving end of it?

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  • [–] 56 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    They are idiots. My family is full of Latinos who pull the ladder from behind. They also think they could be on the same level as white people. Nope.

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    [–] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    So they're fucking stupid then? He's been anti-immigrant since long before he was elected. What did they think was going to happen?

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  • [–] 39 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    WHOMP

    fucking

    WHOMP

    you were all warned and didn't listen. You thought it was okay for him to subjugate "those illegals" because you thought you were the "good ones" so therefore it was okay to harm those groups.

    Fuck you and enjoy not having a face

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    [–] 36 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    If it's a poll showing it and not a news story on a massive protest, they're not really furious.

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    [–] 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Climbed the stairs.

    Voted to have the stairs pulled up behind them.

    Turned out they also voted to get kicked down from the platform themselves.

    Frankly, such immigrant rightwingers are the only bunch that actually deserve the tender mercies of the likes of ICE.

    (And for any knee-jerking "identity warriors" out there, never forget that immigrants are like everybody else and thus amongst them, plenty of people when they think they themselves are safe from it ("I'm alright Jack") are just as nasty hearthless and selfish "conservative" and even fascist as the Republicans)

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    ...in my experience, first-generation-citizen demographics tend to skew hardest against undocumented immigrants; not sure whether that's because they put in the time, effort, + cost to secure their own citizenship and thus resent those who haven't done so in kind, or because they emmigrated to expressly to get away from their native demographic who comprise undocumented immigrants...

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  • [–] 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    There's a big "why did you vote for Trump in the first place?" shaped hole in the middle of this story. Did the reporter not ask? Did they not think it was important?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Legally documented immigrants are often considerably more strict and harsh in their views on undocumented immigrants. A very "I did it right and so should you have too" mentality. This is particularly strong among refugee immigrants (Cuban and Venezuela, for example). The problem here is the perception that undocumented immigrants are all members of roving street gangs selling drugs and murdering an raping. Farm hands and construction workers can get documentation that passes the checks required of employers. So they weren't expecting their own employees to be swept up in it.

    They're not stupid, just heavily propagandized to where they need to experience personal consequence to reconsider. It a perfect chance to have the conversation with them to win them over.

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    [–] 28 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Just a reminder. Male Latinos are literally the reason Trump is in office right now. Kamala had the black and white support to win, but make Latinos swung like 40 pts hard right.

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    [–] 25 points 2 weeks ago

    Wow, what a bunch of fucking idiots.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    to be fair how would they know? he only insulted Latinos every time he talked about them, called them rapists and murderers, and promised he would deport all of them... like are they supposed to be mind readers???

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    [–] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I am baffled someone actually didn't understand when a far-right white male politician says "illegals" they've always meant "people of color"

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    [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    It's Christianity. A ton of immigrant Hispanics are extremely Christian and Republicans are historically the Christian party

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    [–] 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Catholisism is the dominant cult among them. Them falling for obvious lies is kind of par for the course

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    [–] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Biggest problem is thinking of Hispanics as a monolith

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    [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago

    All the people that can be convinced they are temporary embarrassed millionaires have been suckered by Republicans, Trump most of all. Unfortunately that includes people from all identity groups, although he really convinced poor and middle class whites the most.

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