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[–] [S] 94 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children)

The chances of this actually being connected is probably near zero (since rising dizziness is global, but datacenters are mostly in few countries), but still felt funny enough to post.

Randomly stumbled upon this while researching why are so many people around lately feeling dizzy.

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  • [–] 59 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I didn't even know dizziness was on the rise! What did you find?

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  • [–] 67 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    If I were to guess, probably heat stroke due to rising temperatures. Which, if true, would also be worsened by having more data centers

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Nothing solid. Imma about to put on my tinfoil hat and start looking at the Russian satellites. Realistically I'm way over my head here and I hope someone else notices the weird trend. The only reason I started looking around is because I feel slightly dizzy for the past 3 months and decided to ask around. Surprisingly alot of people are experiencing the same thing. I'm from Baltics. All health checkups return perfectly fine.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    That's odd, I just had a random moment of dizziness today. I assumed it was the heat, but I've had heat sickness before and it didn't feel like that. It felt like the ground shook for a moment, but no one else seemed to notice.

    I'm across the ocean by the way.

    And I don't think EMF interference is a crackpot conspiracy theory. Havana syndrome is real, and supposedly the CIA has an undetectable heart attack gun. Sonic weapons exist, so why not RF weapons? Not saying they're okay, just possible. And anything that's possible is likely at this point...

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Maybe rising CO2 levels? Just guessing.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 weeks ago

    You ever spin in a circle? You do it a few times you don't really notoce, you do it a lot, younget dizzy.

    The earth has been spinning in a lot of cirxles, and we are starting to cross into the "do it a lot" range of spins.

    -- Calvin's Dad

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    [–] 77 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Holy shit, dizziness causes data centers?!

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The delay implies on the other direction. Let's see if dizziness reduces a bit in 6 months.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    But it really doesn't.

    You could replace number of data centers with total number of Taylor Swift songs released and get that same idea. Taylor Swift music existing causes dizziness, and it must be stopped.

    Or you could replace number of data centers with "Sean Connery alive?" and decide dizziness has been going up since he died. He was somehow guarding the world against becoming dizzy, and we lost that protection when he passed. :/

    Putting two random things on a chart like this doesn't actually show or imply anything, other than that the person who made it likely wants you to believe there's some kind of connection.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Eh...

    It doesn't get anything similar to the same result.

    https://trends.google.com.br/trends/explore?date=today+5-y&q=dizziness%2CSean+Connery+alive%3F&hl=pt-BR

    You are trying to say it's a coincidence, and that's probably correct. But it's perfectly possible that the interest in datacenters leads to an interest in dizziness, or that they are related by some hidden variable.

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  • [–] 52 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    It's actually

    Causation causes correlation

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  • [–] 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Infrasound. Proven Possible (>100dB is absolutely harmful though, lower levels are object of studies now and testing on humans yielded inconclusive results) negative impact on people's health and general wellbeing, waves travel quite far and have high penetration, and data centers are absolutely the source of it with all the fans and pumps.

    Not saying that there 1:1 causation here, but having a data center around will absolutely make you miserable, and dizzy too.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    Has it been proven? I see articles that suggest pathways or mechanisms.

    But when I looked for a double blind study with controls, they do not find any effects at all. Arguably the majority of studies are around 8 hour periods or sleep period, not 24 hour exposure. But you would think they would find something. They did hearing tests, blood test, brain activity tests, and emotional response "feeling" scores. It just isnt there conclusively.

    People started doing a lot of this research because of the wind turbines, which also are very loud, run as long as their is wind, and produce infrasound.

    Don't get me wrong: I am not defending putting loud constant noise machines near people, this should be part of a zoning regulation. That seems bad enough, infrasound or not.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    How far does that actually travel, and how does that compare to other bad stuff that has been around longer, like refineries or power substations or whatever?

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    data centres have been around for decades as well, I believe it's the new hyper scaler data centres that possibly have this infrasound thingo

    But that's nothing related to a google trend graph of dizziness and data centres, that's as the OP says, random

    These are great:

    https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    Where I live there's a refinery, about ten years ago they changed the burners on the tall torches for a new kind that burn apparently cleaner but they make a lot more noise. It is 6km away with no direct line of sight, the low pitch rumble makes some of the windows in my house rattle.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    So, you may have noticed that 5 GHz Wi-Fi has smaller coverage area than 2.4 GHz.

    It works that way all the way down to infrasound, which is <20 Hz, and natural examples would be whale communications (thousands of kilometers) or volcano eruptions (infrasound wave from Krakatoa eruption lapped around entire globe multiple times).

    As for human factors - basically any big industrial tech object is gonna be the source of ultrasound. So it's kind of safe to assume that infrasound from data centers may be "heard" from at least several kilometers away. Dunno how it compares to refineries and power substations - but they're also source of that.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    At night I could hear a train idle from a kilometer away through town easily. That was still in the audible range, not infrasound, and also it was literally just the engine idling, not the train being driven - not super loud even if standing next to it. A bit louder than a car.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    It seems you've discovered a real correlation here!

    ... it's called "cold season" for a reason, and lots of people will be searching for common ailments at the same time.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago*

    I mean f**k AI and massive datacenters near residential areas but I think some of this could be nocebo

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Over 30 years in data centers, no dizziness. I do have a deep contempt on the amount of waste and it has grown over those 30 years...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Conclusion: datacenters are caused by dizziness

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