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[–] 243 points 3 months ago (6 children)

on a job interview in IT, an interviewer asked me if I understood the difference between TCP and UDP. After giving the best technical explanation I could, I ended with

I could tell you a UDP joke, but I'm not sure if you'd get it.

He said go ahead

I paused, that was it.

Kind of awkward.

I didn't get the job.

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  • [–] 109 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Nothing boosts your impression on people like making them feel stupid. RIP

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  • [–] 68 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't expect this joke to make someone feel stupid if they know what UDP is, so it feels like it was a safe bet

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  • [–] 37 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Interviewing is (ideally) quite a structured type of conversation, when is a job interview. A lot of people have to lock in pretty hard to deal with how unnatural it is, and they might not have the spare bandwidth to catch a joke.

    Especially not someone from HR, they're fucking troglodytes.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I completely agree with your first paragraph.
    But TheFogan was probably not explaining UDP to an HR person in this scenario.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Oh I've seen some pretty bad interviewing, where HR is sent in with a question sheet and a box to tick for which key words the interviewee mentioned per question.

    Obviously a red flag and useless method of interviewing, but it does happen frighteningly often. Especially where the IT team is so understaffed, they can't spare the time to do interviews.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    This is done, especially in government work, to limit bias in the interview process. Ideally, though, the people conducting the interviews understand the questions they're asking and can use some judgement and give credit if someone explained a concept but didn't hit the specific keyword.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    Yeah, but that’s not what this was.

    Interviewer asked about thing then does not get joke about most basic property of thing. Either the interviewer is incredibly incompetent or incapable of getting a joke.

    It’s a weird situation even for a job interview. (& I’ve been on job interviews that can only be described as tribunals with 8 judges grilling you simultaneously.)

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Unfortunately I don’t know enough about udp to get it, is it that you dumped the information before like, asking about it?

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago

    Tcp and udp are to sum it up, internet messaging protocols. UDP specifically is when you send a message over without guaranteeing your message was received. TCP on the otherhand is more like a handshake where you send a message and expect a response back.

    The joke is basically UDP=I dont know if you would get it

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    Yeah I believe i remember roughly the explanation I gave to the interviewer.

    TCP basically takes the time to confirm every detail actually was recieved, used in almost all situations in networking where accuracy is critical.

    UDP is basically when speed is the more important than everything being perfect, (we were on a zoom call), Like say this video call, if the background gets blurry or a few frames drop or even my face distorts for a few seconds, that would be less of an inconvenience to us than if the network took the time and made sure to transmit every frame exactly as the camera picks it up, at the cost of an extra 10 seconds of lag in the call.

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    [+] 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Well, they are there to learn after all, he didn't assume his students knew, and asked if they did. One guy in the class knew. Seems like it's working itself out, and he just needs to keep that one loaded for later in the semester when people are primed to get it.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    That joke deserved a laugh. The class clearly wasn’t conditioned properly.

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    [–] 28 points 3 months ago

    it's worse if they then continue with. "ok, well, it's interesting you said that his name rings a bell because the experiment..." like you're too dumb to have even made the joke you did.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago

    Maybe they just wanted to deny the positive feedback to him.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago

    The only acceptable response is “I heard he was good at making bitches wet.”

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I've heard that same joke a million times. It's what I'd expect to find at the top of a Reddit thread.

    It's a witty joke but a common one, so wouldn't chuckle tbh

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    The thing is it is highly doubtful that Pavlov ever used a bell. Also the experiments were no fun for the dogs.

    He redirected the animals' digestive fluids outside the body, where they could be measured.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning#procedures

    https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2022/12/the-shocking-and-gruesome-truth-about-pavlovs-dogs-and-how-the-results-are-commonly-misinterpreted/

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    the experiments were no fun for the dogs

    I would really expect most experiments to be no fun for animals that are experimented on

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Since Pavlow is so famous you see often the dogs depicted as cute and someone ringing a bell. Not as fixated pepsin machines. At least in the past that was my mental image. Might be a me problem.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    FWIW I used to hang out with behavioral psychology grad students, who were in the Skinnerian tradition of operant conditioning research. They mostly worked with pigeons, and to transport the birds they used juice pitchers with a few air holes cut into the bottom. I asked them once how they got the birds into the pitchers and they laughed and showed me: they would just open the bird's cage and hold the pitcher up and the birds would dive head-first into the pitcher, sometimes knocking themselves out in the process.

    As part of the research protocol, the birds were kept on a diet that included about 80% of their normal caloric intake; the rest of their food was provided by the reinforcements of the experiments themselves (this was done to maximize the reinforcement effect of the rewards). So those birds were way the fuck into those experiments. To add to that, these students were all behavioral pharmacologists, so in addition to getting food reinforcement the birds were also getting drugs like cocaine and heroin.

    BTW a lot of people confuse the operant conditioning research with the people who put animals into cages and shock them. This is definitely not what BF Skinner was all about. In fact he wrote books on the subject of how punishment is a bad thing for all animals (including humans and pigeons).

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Or everyone has heard that same joke a thousand times already

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    Assuming they all don't have a very-literal-interpretation-of-jokes-leading-to-no-sense-of-humour, I think people usually laugh appreciatively at someone trying to lighten the mood in settings like this, even when they've heard the joke before.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago
    [–] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    For the life of me I can't remember how we got to the subject, but once we were talking about attaching speakers to a dog and I called it "Dolby Surround Hound." I was very proud of that one and it went completely unacknowledged.

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    [–] 8 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Did he expect everyone to start drooling over him?

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    [–] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I would have said "wasn't Pavlov the guy who had a dog named Ruby Begonia?" and even the prof wouldn't have known what the fuck I was talking about.

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    [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Should've started drooling right after.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    what a bunch of drooling morons

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago*

    I've found that everyone at uni is like this. Humourless weirdosfellows, maybe they just exhaust themselves with drink, drugs and dancing every night and can't process my jokes.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Too obvious, don't reward someone for going after low hanging fruit...

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