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[–] 95 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't think it was the Mexican farmers that gave us diabeetus. I'd blame it on the sugar cartels in the US.

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  • [–] 71 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    thx for the diabeetus

    you know you don't have to turn it into corn syrup right? that crap isn't used widely anywhere but in the US

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    The crazy thing is, every time I have tried a yank drink with corn syrup that my country has the equivalent to without corn syrup, the yank one tastes like ass without fail, and leaves your mouth feeling weird.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Corn syrup is better than our other main use for it: Ethanol

    Problem is that we have such extreme subsidies that vast swaths of farmers are now entirely reliant on corn subsidies. We make far more corn than we have any use for because of it

    No politician wants to be the one to take away the insane corn subsidies because a whole lot of farmers will be upset, and the American public is generally unaware of how wasteful the subsidies are

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    and turkey, they domesticated the turkey we eat...

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  • [–] 54 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    and china, they domesticated chinese food

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Chinese food as we know, everywhere except China, is a purely American invention. It's history is really interesting, especially how the restaurant owners of the 80s convinced everyone MSG was poison.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    It even started in the late 60's early 70's, originally referred to at "Chinese restaurant syndrome." Rooted in anti Asian racism, supposedly we were slowly being poisoned... by tasty tasty Asian food with added msg.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    So... it's not poison? Propaganda is a bitch

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    It's psychosomatic. MSG is also in tomatoes, mushrooms, and tons of savory salted snacks such as Doritos. None of those tend to trigger the symptoms people claim to have after eating Chinese food.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    "Ranch" flavor comes basically 100% from salt and MSG. There is a microscopic amount of herbs that make next to no difference. Ask anyone who thinks MSG is bad for you if they have cut out Ranch dressing for some hilarity. (May not apply to non-Americans).

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    What do people claim about MSG?

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  • [+] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's no longer accurate, as there are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in areas with Chinese communities that aren't just trying to get western locals to visit. The dim sum place I've been to didn't even have much English on their menu and it really helped to have some colleagues present who knew Chinese (both the language and the food).

    Easily one of the best meals I've ever had, and I'm not usually a fan of the western chinese style.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    dim sum is called dim sum though, you wouldn't expect to get dim sum except at brunch/lunch time and if someone says they are going to get Chinese food it'd be a surprise to get dim sum. Even traditional Chinese restaurants that cater to Chinese people serve Americanized Chinese food. In the Seattle Chinatown there's restaurants that have Chinese only menus that don't have any of the same stuff as the English menu. I've been to them with Chinese speakers and it's a totally different experience then going there with just my wife.

    my original point is that "Chinese food" to most of the western world is the stuff that American Chinese immigrants invented. Real Chinese food isn't called Chinese food because China is massive and they have so many food cultures that those cultures are what that style of food is called

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    Mexico didn’t exist back then. Europeans hadn’t conquered and genocided and created states in the Americas.

    This was native (indigenous) americans.

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    indigeneity and nationality are two different concepts that have nothing to do with each other.

    this can range from indigenous Oaxacans who are US citizens to Mexican citizens who are settlers who murder indigenous people in Mexico to steal their land.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    What did the natives call the region in their language?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    Well before Mexico, it was the Aztecs and they called their land Aztlán, Mexico is probably some bastardized name from Nahuatl

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I don't know where exactly maize was cultivated, but Mexico comes from city Mexico-Tenochtitlan.

    They found millenia old traces of maize in the valley of the Rio Balsa in Xihuatoxtla and also in the valley of Tehuacán.

    Something about Coxcatlán phase. Couldn't find a name of a people who would have been responsible for the domestication.

    It's easiest to say it happened in Mesoamerica.

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    [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    thx for the diabeetus

    fun fact, that is a eugenicist health scare campaign started by settlers to demonize indigenous peoples whose traditional diets are rich in corn.

    famine and genocide are known causes of chronic illness. surviving colonialism is inherently disabling and heightened diabetes rates are a side-effect of that. it makes no scientific sense to me to completely ignore the social determinants of health and blame the diets of entire ethnic groups for their chronic illness rates.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The change from teosinte to maize involved a surprisingly small change to it's genetic code. Something like 5 genes.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    So there is hope for people with small dick size? 

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    They werent mexicans they were mayans, spanish came over and banged em' turned em into mexicans.

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    [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Ask your local chatbot today about the teosinte emoji

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    [–] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I tell you, there is nothing more Lemmy than people taking jokes/memes super seriously in the comments.

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Ain't nobody made you fat from that but you. If you were living like the natives were back then, you might be keeping fitter with it

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago*

    "It's the Coca-Cola, stupid".

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