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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 40 points 5 months ago (2 children) and turkey, they domesticated the turkey we eat... permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 54 points 5 months ago (2 children) and china, they domesticated chinese food permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 24 points 5 months ago (6 children) Chinese food as we know, everywhere except China, is a purely American invention. It's history is really interesting, especially how the restaurant owners of the 80s convinced everyone MSG was poison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Duranie@leminal.space 15 points 5 months ago It even started in the late 60's early 70's, originally referred to at "Chinese restaurant syndrome." Rooted in anti Asian racism, supposedly we were slowly being poisoned... by tasty tasty Asian food with added msg. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children) So... it's not poison? Propaganda is a bitch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) It's psychosomatic. MSG is also in tomatoes, mushrooms, and tons of savory salted snacks such as Doritos. None of those tend to trigger the symptoms people claim to have after eating Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) "Ranch" flavor comes basically 100% from salt and MSG. There is a microscopic amount of herbs that make next to no difference. Ask anyone who thinks MSG is bad for you if they have cut out Ranch dressing for some hilarity. (May not apply to non-Americans). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch is basically garlic and onion flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch has more salt than anything and more MSG than garlic, look at the ingredients on a pouch. Ingredients are listed by order of volume. It has more corn starch than onion. It has basically traces of anything else. I know this because I spent not a small amount of time replicating Ranch dressing. Although there are a hundred MSG-conspiracy-nut websites that will tell you you don't need MSG to make Ranch dressing, there is no Ranch dressing recipe that tastes anything at all like Ranch without MSG. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I have a feeling there's a huge overlap between the people who complain about Chinese food and the people who raved about the Mississippi pot roast viral recipe (which has two packets of MSG-loaded seasonings in it). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do people claim about MSG? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it's not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis. Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) What is MSG made from? Could it be that they're allergic to the base and that there is a threshold? I hope to fuck you aren't a scientist and you are an amazingly shitty person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago Wasn't it a problem in cheap potato chips too? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago What isn't psychosomatic when the target is the average fucking moron? ... I mean, besides all the things that turn out to be real... but morons will believe anything up to and including their mumbling jibberish is a connection to God with glossolalia... permalink fedilink source parent [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago Chinese food* as we** know *only applicable to western chinese food **the American permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) That's no longer accurate, as there are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in areas with Chinese communities that aren't just trying to get western locals to visit. The dim sum place I've been to didn't even have much English on their menu and it really helped to have some colleagues present who knew Chinese (both the language and the food). Easily one of the best meals I've ever had, and I'm not usually a fan of the western chinese style. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago dim sum is called dim sum though, you wouldn't expect to get dim sum except at brunch/lunch time and if someone says they are going to get Chinese food it'd be a surprise to get dim sum. Even traditional Chinese restaurants that cater to Chinese people serve Americanized Chinese food. In the Seattle Chinatown there's restaurants that have Chinese only menus that don't have any of the same stuff as the English menu. I've been to them with Chinese speakers and it's a totally different experience then going there with just my wife. my original point is that "Chinese food" to most of the western world is the stuff that American Chinese immigrants invented. Real Chinese food isn't called Chinese food because China is massive and they have so many food cultures that those cultures are what that style of food is called permalink fedilink source parent [–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago I get it. Kinda like with scotch whisky permalink fedilink source parent [–] F_State@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago Not true, apparently Chinese immigrants in Ireland created something called a "Spice Bag" which is wholly unrelated to Americanized Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago Is that how they bred orange chickens? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* In Turkey corn is called "Egypt" and India is called "land of" either "Turkeys" or "Hinduists" depending on how you chose to interpret it. I select the first one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 54 points 5 months ago (2 children) and china, they domesticated chinese food permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 24 points 5 months ago (6 children) Chinese food as we know, everywhere except China, is a purely American invention. It's history is really interesting, especially how the restaurant owners of the 80s convinced everyone MSG was poison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Duranie@leminal.space 15 points 5 months ago It even started in the late 60's early 70's, originally referred to at "Chinese restaurant syndrome." Rooted in anti Asian racism, supposedly we were slowly being poisoned... by tasty tasty Asian food with added msg. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children) So... it's not poison? Propaganda is a bitch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) It's psychosomatic. MSG is also in tomatoes, mushrooms, and tons of savory salted snacks such as Doritos. None of those tend to trigger the symptoms people claim to have after eating Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) "Ranch" flavor comes basically 100% from salt and MSG. There is a microscopic amount of herbs that make next to no difference. Ask anyone who thinks MSG is bad for you if they have cut out Ranch dressing for some hilarity. (May not apply to non-Americans). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch is basically garlic and onion flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch has more salt than anything and more MSG than garlic, look at the ingredients on a pouch. Ingredients are listed by order of volume. It has more corn starch than onion. It has basically traces of anything else. I know this because I spent not a small amount of time replicating Ranch dressing. Although there are a hundred MSG-conspiracy-nut websites that will tell you you don't need MSG to make Ranch dressing, there is no Ranch dressing recipe that tastes anything at all like Ranch without MSG. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I have a feeling there's a huge overlap between the people who complain about Chinese food and the people who raved about the Mississippi pot roast viral recipe (which has two packets of MSG-loaded seasonings in it). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do people claim about MSG? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it's not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis. Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) What is MSG made from? Could it be that they're allergic to the base and that there is a threshold? I hope to fuck you aren't a scientist and you are an amazingly shitty person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago Wasn't it a problem in cheap potato chips too? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago What isn't psychosomatic when the target is the average fucking moron? ... I mean, besides all the things that turn out to be real... but morons will believe anything up to and including their mumbling jibberish is a connection to God with glossolalia... permalink fedilink source parent [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago Chinese food* as we** know *only applicable to western chinese food **the American permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) That's no longer accurate, as there are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in areas with Chinese communities that aren't just trying to get western locals to visit. The dim sum place I've been to didn't even have much English on their menu and it really helped to have some colleagues present who knew Chinese (both the language and the food). Easily one of the best meals I've ever had, and I'm not usually a fan of the western chinese style. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago dim sum is called dim sum though, you wouldn't expect to get dim sum except at brunch/lunch time and if someone says they are going to get Chinese food it'd be a surprise to get dim sum. Even traditional Chinese restaurants that cater to Chinese people serve Americanized Chinese food. In the Seattle Chinatown there's restaurants that have Chinese only menus that don't have any of the same stuff as the English menu. I've been to them with Chinese speakers and it's a totally different experience then going there with just my wife. my original point is that "Chinese food" to most of the western world is the stuff that American Chinese immigrants invented. Real Chinese food isn't called Chinese food because China is massive and they have so many food cultures that those cultures are what that style of food is called permalink fedilink source parent [–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago I get it. Kinda like with scotch whisky permalink fedilink source parent [–] F_State@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago Not true, apparently Chinese immigrants in Ireland created something called a "Spice Bag" which is wholly unrelated to Americanized Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago Is that how they bred orange chickens? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 24 points 5 months ago (6 children) Chinese food as we know, everywhere except China, is a purely American invention. It's history is really interesting, especially how the restaurant owners of the 80s convinced everyone MSG was poison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Duranie@leminal.space 15 points 5 months ago It even started in the late 60's early 70's, originally referred to at "Chinese restaurant syndrome." Rooted in anti Asian racism, supposedly we were slowly being poisoned... by tasty tasty Asian food with added msg. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children) So... it's not poison? Propaganda is a bitch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) It's psychosomatic. MSG is also in tomatoes, mushrooms, and tons of savory salted snacks such as Doritos. None of those tend to trigger the symptoms people claim to have after eating Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) "Ranch" flavor comes basically 100% from salt and MSG. There is a microscopic amount of herbs that make next to no difference. Ask anyone who thinks MSG is bad for you if they have cut out Ranch dressing for some hilarity. (May not apply to non-Americans). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch is basically garlic and onion flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch has more salt than anything and more MSG than garlic, look at the ingredients on a pouch. Ingredients are listed by order of volume. It has more corn starch than onion. It has basically traces of anything else. I know this because I spent not a small amount of time replicating Ranch dressing. Although there are a hundred MSG-conspiracy-nut websites that will tell you you don't need MSG to make Ranch dressing, there is no Ranch dressing recipe that tastes anything at all like Ranch without MSG. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I have a feeling there's a huge overlap between the people who complain about Chinese food and the people who raved about the Mississippi pot roast viral recipe (which has two packets of MSG-loaded seasonings in it). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do people claim about MSG? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it's not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis. Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) What is MSG made from? Could it be that they're allergic to the base and that there is a threshold? I hope to fuck you aren't a scientist and you are an amazingly shitty person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago Wasn't it a problem in cheap potato chips too? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago What isn't psychosomatic when the target is the average fucking moron? ... I mean, besides all the things that turn out to be real... but morons will believe anything up to and including their mumbling jibberish is a connection to God with glossolalia... permalink fedilink source parent [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago Chinese food* as we** know *only applicable to western chinese food **the American permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) That's no longer accurate, as there are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in areas with Chinese communities that aren't just trying to get western locals to visit. The dim sum place I've been to didn't even have much English on their menu and it really helped to have some colleagues present who knew Chinese (both the language and the food). Easily one of the best meals I've ever had, and I'm not usually a fan of the western chinese style. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago dim sum is called dim sum though, you wouldn't expect to get dim sum except at brunch/lunch time and if someone says they are going to get Chinese food it'd be a surprise to get dim sum. Even traditional Chinese restaurants that cater to Chinese people serve Americanized Chinese food. In the Seattle Chinatown there's restaurants that have Chinese only menus that don't have any of the same stuff as the English menu. I've been to them with Chinese speakers and it's a totally different experience then going there with just my wife. my original point is that "Chinese food" to most of the western world is the stuff that American Chinese immigrants invented. Real Chinese food isn't called Chinese food because China is massive and they have so many food cultures that those cultures are what that style of food is called permalink fedilink source parent [–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago I get it. Kinda like with scotch whisky permalink fedilink source parent [–] F_State@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago Not true, apparently Chinese immigrants in Ireland created something called a "Spice Bag" which is wholly unrelated to Americanized Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duranie@leminal.space 15 points 5 months ago It even started in the late 60's early 70's, originally referred to at "Chinese restaurant syndrome." Rooted in anti Asian racism, supposedly we were slowly being poisoned... by tasty tasty Asian food with added msg. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children) So... it's not poison? Propaganda is a bitch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) It's psychosomatic. MSG is also in tomatoes, mushrooms, and tons of savory salted snacks such as Doritos. None of those tend to trigger the symptoms people claim to have after eating Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) "Ranch" flavor comes basically 100% from salt and MSG. There is a microscopic amount of herbs that make next to no difference. Ask anyone who thinks MSG is bad for you if they have cut out Ranch dressing for some hilarity. (May not apply to non-Americans). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch is basically garlic and onion flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch has more salt than anything and more MSG than garlic, look at the ingredients on a pouch. Ingredients are listed by order of volume. It has more corn starch than onion. It has basically traces of anything else. I know this because I spent not a small amount of time replicating Ranch dressing. Although there are a hundred MSG-conspiracy-nut websites that will tell you you don't need MSG to make Ranch dressing, there is no Ranch dressing recipe that tastes anything at all like Ranch without MSG. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I have a feeling there's a huge overlap between the people who complain about Chinese food and the people who raved about the Mississippi pot roast viral recipe (which has two packets of MSG-loaded seasonings in it). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do people claim about MSG? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it's not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis. Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) What is MSG made from? Could it be that they're allergic to the base and that there is a threshold? I hope to fuck you aren't a scientist and you are an amazingly shitty person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago Wasn't it a problem in cheap potato chips too? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago What isn't psychosomatic when the target is the average fucking moron? ... I mean, besides all the things that turn out to be real... but morons will believe anything up to and including their mumbling jibberish is a connection to God with glossolalia... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) It's psychosomatic. MSG is also in tomatoes, mushrooms, and tons of savory salted snacks such as Doritos. None of those tend to trigger the symptoms people claim to have after eating Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) "Ranch" flavor comes basically 100% from salt and MSG. There is a microscopic amount of herbs that make next to no difference. Ask anyone who thinks MSG is bad for you if they have cut out Ranch dressing for some hilarity. (May not apply to non-Americans). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch is basically garlic and onion flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch has more salt than anything and more MSG than garlic, look at the ingredients on a pouch. Ingredients are listed by order of volume. It has more corn starch than onion. It has basically traces of anything else. I know this because I spent not a small amount of time replicating Ranch dressing. Although there are a hundred MSG-conspiracy-nut websites that will tell you you don't need MSG to make Ranch dressing, there is no Ranch dressing recipe that tastes anything at all like Ranch without MSG. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I have a feeling there's a huge overlap between the people who complain about Chinese food and the people who raved about the Mississippi pot roast viral recipe (which has two packets of MSG-loaded seasonings in it). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do people claim about MSG? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it's not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis. Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) What is MSG made from? Could it be that they're allergic to the base and that there is a threshold? I hope to fuck you aren't a scientist and you are an amazingly shitty person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago Wasn't it a problem in cheap potato chips too? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago What isn't psychosomatic when the target is the average fucking moron? ... I mean, besides all the things that turn out to be real... but morons will believe anything up to and including their mumbling jibberish is a connection to God with glossolalia... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) "Ranch" flavor comes basically 100% from salt and MSG. There is a microscopic amount of herbs that make next to no difference. Ask anyone who thinks MSG is bad for you if they have cut out Ranch dressing for some hilarity. (May not apply to non-Americans). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch is basically garlic and onion flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch has more salt than anything and more MSG than garlic, look at the ingredients on a pouch. Ingredients are listed by order of volume. It has more corn starch than onion. It has basically traces of anything else. I know this because I spent not a small amount of time replicating Ranch dressing. Although there are a hundred MSG-conspiracy-nut websites that will tell you you don't need MSG to make Ranch dressing, there is no Ranch dressing recipe that tastes anything at all like Ranch without MSG. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I have a feeling there's a huge overlap between the people who complain about Chinese food and the people who raved about the Mississippi pot roast viral recipe (which has two packets of MSG-loaded seasonings in it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] F_State@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch is basically garlic and onion flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch has more salt than anything and more MSG than garlic, look at the ingredients on a pouch. Ingredients are listed by order of volume. It has more corn starch than onion. It has basically traces of anything else. I know this because I spent not a small amount of time replicating Ranch dressing. Although there are a hundred MSG-conspiracy-nut websites that will tell you you don't need MSG to make Ranch dressing, there is no Ranch dressing recipe that tastes anything at all like Ranch without MSG. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Ranch has more salt than anything and more MSG than garlic, look at the ingredients on a pouch. Ingredients are listed by order of volume. It has more corn starch than onion. It has basically traces of anything else. I know this because I spent not a small amount of time replicating Ranch dressing. Although there are a hundred MSG-conspiracy-nut websites that will tell you you don't need MSG to make Ranch dressing, there is no Ranch dressing recipe that tastes anything at all like Ranch without MSG. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago MSG is wonderful, no doubt, but the original recipe got a huge chunk of it's flavor from sour cream which was the main ingredient. Nowadays it's a mix of mayo and buttermilk instead of sour cream and doesn't taste the same. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I have a feeling there's a huge overlap between the people who complain about Chinese food and the people who raved about the Mississippi pot roast viral recipe (which has two packets of MSG-loaded seasonings in it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do people claim about MSG? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it's not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis. Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) What is MSG made from? Could it be that they're allergic to the base and that there is a threshold? I hope to fuck you aren't a scientist and you are an amazingly shitty person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it's not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis. Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) What is MSG made from? Could it be that they're allergic to the base and that there is a threshold? I hope to fuck you aren't a scientist and you are an amazingly shitty person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) So, in short, they're heavily allergic to their own thought processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Some people do seem to confuse cognitive dissonance with being sick, and not that their fucking pathetic understanding of the world has just been challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well, let's be fair. That is just a different kind of Sickness. Kind of a difficult sense that I distinctly remember bashing my head to a couple decades ago, being so Disturbed. Gotta go hear that, again, NOW. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Damn, Disturbed does have some bangers... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 point 5 months ago Kind of depends on how much hair you've grown. Or, at least, how you bang your head, I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it's not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis. Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) What's Magic Sugar? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Cyclamate, which turns out to be not really that much carcinogenic, but still banned in the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) What is MSG made from? Could it be that they're allergic to the base and that there is a threshold? I hope to fuck you aren't a scientist and you are an amazingly shitty person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago You are being really dumb about this. MSG comes from beets or seaweed or other shit. A person might be allergic to beets OR seaweed. I know you think you're being smart about this, but you're not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago Wasn't it a problem in cheap potato chips too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago What isn't psychosomatic when the target is the average fucking moron? ... I mean, besides all the things that turn out to be real... but morons will believe anything up to and including their mumbling jibberish is a connection to God with glossolalia... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago Chinese food* as we** know *only applicable to western chinese food **the American permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) That's no longer accurate, as there are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in areas with Chinese communities that aren't just trying to get western locals to visit. The dim sum place I've been to didn't even have much English on their menu and it really helped to have some colleagues present who knew Chinese (both the language and the food). Easily one of the best meals I've ever had, and I'm not usually a fan of the western chinese style. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago dim sum is called dim sum though, you wouldn't expect to get dim sum except at brunch/lunch time and if someone says they are going to get Chinese food it'd be a surprise to get dim sum. Even traditional Chinese restaurants that cater to Chinese people serve Americanized Chinese food. In the Seattle Chinatown there's restaurants that have Chinese only menus that don't have any of the same stuff as the English menu. I've been to them with Chinese speakers and it's a totally different experience then going there with just my wife. my original point is that "Chinese food" to most of the western world is the stuff that American Chinese immigrants invented. Real Chinese food isn't called Chinese food because China is massive and they have so many food cultures that those cultures are what that style of food is called permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago dim sum is called dim sum though, you wouldn't expect to get dim sum except at brunch/lunch time and if someone says they are going to get Chinese food it'd be a surprise to get dim sum. Even traditional Chinese restaurants that cater to Chinese people serve Americanized Chinese food. In the Seattle Chinatown there's restaurants that have Chinese only menus that don't have any of the same stuff as the English menu. I've been to them with Chinese speakers and it's a totally different experience then going there with just my wife. my original point is that "Chinese food" to most of the western world is the stuff that American Chinese immigrants invented. Real Chinese food isn't called Chinese food because China is massive and they have so many food cultures that those cultures are what that style of food is called permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago I get it. Kinda like with scotch whisky permalink fedilink source parent
[–] F_State@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago Not true, apparently Chinese immigrants in Ireland created something called a "Spice Bag" which is wholly unrelated to Americanized Chinese food. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago Is that how they bred orange chickens? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* In Turkey corn is called "Egypt" and India is called "land of" either "Turkeys" or "Hinduists" depending on how you chose to interpret it. I select the first one. permalink fedilink source parent