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[–] 133 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I fear wishful thinking, gaming consumers (demand) don't wield such power over supply.

The format doesn't work as well but lemmy try ...

Perhaps ...

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    This is a better version imo. These companies are going to kill consumerism of the PC market soon enough. It will take some time, like 20 years or so I imagine given the current landscape and old inventory, but these are the starting steps.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    IMHO it's already dead.

    Nobody's made RAM actually targeting the specs in the standards for years; the sticks ship with built-in overclocking settings for one or the other proprietary system, and the boards expect the sticks to already be on their Qualified Vendor List to actually work right. The interface between the RAM and the motherboard is ceasing to be a legitimate extension point.

    There's two people who make CPUs, not to any spec but to work with their own other chips that need to already be on the board, which are then driven by firmware software basically supplied by the CPU makers. When the CPU makers update their base firmware bundles, the board makers skin and ship it. In the distant past, one could slot competing CPUs from different vendors into the same board, and they would execute BIOS software fundamentally under the control of the board makers. The interface between the CPU and the board has long since ceased to be a legitimate extension point.

    The real remaining extension point is PCIe, and since its dominant use is to attach exactly one ever-widening GPU from one of two (or perhaps now three! How spoiled for choice we are!) manufacturers, each year fewer slots are provided. The target customer only needs one, and it needs as much physical clearance as humanly possible. A case will have 7 or 8 slots on the back and a board will provide two slots to plug anything in, one to actually use and one to be able to claim that there's more than one slot. And each year there's less stuff to put in there (who buys sound cards?) and more stuff (fast networking, wifi, fancy USB) is integrated into the board.

    And all these components have started to acquire fancy molded plastic and metal casings, to the point where it's not clear why they need a separate enclosure around them.

    So the net result is you obtain one fancy shrouded box from Lenovo, or you purchase two fancy shrouded boxes and plug them together, and you call the result a "PC". And then on the software side it's a terminal for a Microsoft account, which you use to run a client for fetching from Steam, which you use to load client software for talking to live services. And now the people orchestrating all this are wondering why they bother actually mailing you the boxes.

    This is very deeply not personal computing.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 53 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah... allow me to doubt those gamers...

    Are those gamers the same that whine about FC26 being a copy-paste of FC25 and then proceed to buy it full price?

    Or the same whinning about the last COD being ai slop in a review after 358 hours of gameplay?

    Or those saying "I won't buy another pokemon game ever after the last shit they released" just to then buy the new shit they make?

    A few gamers will boycot, but most of them are going to keep buying everything from their favourite series non-stop because, apparently, they can't live without it.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    There are way too many people lining up to fellate Gabe for this to be accurate.

    People might get pissed off when DRM is buggy enough for them to notice, but most gamers don't realise that they don't actually own a single game in their Steam library.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    I take some sense of ownership over my Steam library in that I can and will immediately pirate the game with the DRM stripped out if Valve ever decides to revoke my access to it.

    On the other hand, this – and buying from a better company – is why I actively prefer GOG, even in cases when the price is higher. (But pssst, hey, Beyond a Steel Sky is $3.50 on GOG right now compared to Steam's $35.) The fact I have to launch the Steam client to play a game I paid for is absurd, and I regret every purchase I made, like Stardew Valley Terraria, before I knew GOG existed. The main outstanding issue to me now is that GOG refuses to port its Galaxy client to Linux.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Heroic launcher can manage your GOG games on linux

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Heroic is an impressive achievement. It just isn't a full replacement – and most of these points I'm about to list aren't things it's trying to or should necessarily do as a games launcher. Off the top of my head:

    • It doesn't work for social aspects like friends, statuses, etc.
    • It doesn't work for monitoring achievements.
    • The storefront is just the actual gog.com webpage rendered as a surface. GOG Galaxy's store UI, by contrast, flows with everything else.
    • I don't think games auto-update, although I could be wrong.
    • It's bloated by nature of also being a launcher for Epic and Amazon – platforms I will never use. GOG Galaxy allows crossplatform stuff, but it's not a full-on multilauncher.
    • The UI is pretty ass. I sympathize a lot with this one as someone who works on the (often disastrously undercoordinated) UI of a similar-profile project.
      • Rectangular UI elements' corner rounding is all over the place (from sharp 90° to Material 3 and everything inbetween).
      • Themes are extremely samey with an enormous bias toward dark themes (I say this as someone who exclusively uses dark themes: a single light theme and thirteen dark themes means you don't give a shit).
      • You can't hide the left-hand menu bar to actually center the page you're viewing.
      • Actions like toolbar dropdowns have no animations (I understand not wanting these; that's accommodated with a "Disable Animations" option).
      • There's absolutely zero compatibility with Orca (screen reader) that I can find.
      • Etc.

    Again, all of these except the UI aren't things Heroic is doing wrong or even supposed to be doing at all.

    Side note: in Heroic, the GOG storefront opens with UTM parameters in the URL for "adtraction". Wonder what that's about.

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I hope GOG will get big like steam. Only if people care about DRM.

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    [–] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Oh sure, its the gamers who are doing the beating huh?

    I doubt ai companies are scared of us… but maybe they should be.

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    [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    👌👍🤡

    Publishers seeing this garbage.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Here I am, happy with my 10 yo desktop, playing games from my backlog, and teaching my kids to play Duck Tales and Dynablaster. Can't wait for to introduce them to The Secret of Monkey Island and Sam and Max Hit the Road. From what I hear, most parents in my neighbourhood are doing something similar, so there's little peer pressure to get the latest hardware to play the latest games.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    My best friends' kid's favorite console is an old laptop with N64 and Playstation emulators on it i gave them a while back. They call all the old games 'real'

    Like real Zelda, and real Mario cart.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Except all big games still have DRM, nothings happened to Cloud gaming, and the AI companies are still churning out shit.

    Let's stop masturbating to ourselves and realise the companies aren't threatened by us at all.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I mean, it's not like "gamers" (as in a significant percentage of us) were actually doing something. As everywhere else, most people are relatively uncritically consuming stuff, and only bad game design can have consequences like a large portion of a fanbase not buying a franchises entry. Not like DRM was a political issue in gaming communities. And Cloud Gaming is even hailed as a way for people who can't afford high power gaming machines to play the newest titles (a claim that has some merit but we need other solutions but that is another debate).

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    [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    The last two people are the same person.

    They might be buying up hardware with AI as their excuse today, but tomorrow they will be indefinately renting you processing power that you're unable to buy(because they cornered and manipulated the hardware market)

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    What are they gonna do? Complain online while proceeding to buy said game?

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Fighting DRM is cool but what really pisses me off is Rootkit Games. There are A LOT more than there used to be.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    2x? Try 4x+ for fast DDR5

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    2x? I bought 32gb DDR5 for £100 just over a year ago. I just saw some “on offer” for £350.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I'm so happy I jumped ship and upgraded my 2 mains to 32GB one, two years ago.

    I could probably live on 8, 16 would be totally ok but now I'm "future proof". For some time I bet, at least on my linux. Windows 13 will probably need 64GB just to boot.

    Kids only got 16 though 😰

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Uh... gamers are the so weak, they buy anything that's shiny enough. Games by big studios pushing out shiny crap still make millions. Gamers can't stop buying skins and will have wars about them too. EA, Blizzard, RockStar Games, Ubisoft, and many other companies are still huge companies because gamers barely care. Only once in a while do they massively reject large games.

    Only about 1.2M EU gamers even cared to sign in the EU initiative to Stop Killing Games. There are 450M EU citizens. There are way more EU gamers than just 1.2M and the vast majority didn't care enough to sign an initiative in their own interest.

    RAM makers are safe. Gamers will just give in and pay 3k+ for a gaming rig with welded on RAM (or whatever shit it is crApple does to make their devices unupgradeable).

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    2x

    Yeah, you wish it was just 2x, more like 5x, especially for the RAM.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Maybe we should shift piracy operations from digital games to physical shipping containers full of tasty RAM.

    The booty is out there somewhere maties! 🏴‍☠️

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    It’s usually not the idea itself, it’s the way it gets implemented 😅

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    AI companies Hardware companies are looking for their record profits and AI is just a useful excuse.

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    [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    An independent studio that develops a game I'm playing recently launched a "supporters edition" which includes pretty much OST, a bunch of wallpapers and some concept art. It's essentially a donation.

    I thought - wow, with half the videogame world owned by Embracer Group I actually want to support this smaller studio.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago
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