And yet on my phone I wish websites would stop hawking the native app and just let me use the site. In a way I suppose this is the same complaint since the native apps are often a web wrapper with telemetry.
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I used to put the forms inside of invisible tables, as was the style at the time.
I would prefer webapps to native if there was a protocol to fully load the page and disable network traffic for apps that work fully offline. It is more secure to run an app in the browser because off the layers of isolation in modern browsers. Native apps can access all sorts of information and system resources, which could be used to compromise the host OS.
There's a standard API for offline webapps: ServiceWorker https://dev.to/taiwofamaks/build-an-offline-first-web-app-with-service-workers-2ml7
I wonder why it's not used more. Maybe not intuitive enough, or maybe JS framework don't support this.
This actually kinda exists, but appears to be implemented in Chrome on Windows only (sigh), and I'm not sure anyone uses it:
Fuckit, if anything more fancy than HTML + CGI is needed, there's always VRML.
....holy shit, it just dawned on me.. VRML + CGI? Today's PCs should have no issue rendering it, and server-side should be the same as any other CGI page. I gotta do some experimenting with this.
UPDATE: I actually did some research into this, and the possibilities are actually quite extensive. In theory it should be possible to make an extremely basic multiplayer FPS game.
No, seriously. Web sucks for GUI. Every basic UI framework does a better job at accessibility, not to talk about performance or weird bugs because it expects Chrome (cross-platform, huh?) to simulate a GUI on a Document Object Model, graceful degradation be damned. And buttons, forms, is something you don't need JS for. You do a poor job if you do.
For a bit more complex form validation (ofc only for user convenience and not security), you need js.
Yeah but you can hack some shit together in jQuery real easy like
the web is the display server/compositor of the internet
if you want it to go away, everyone who is working on it and making it work right now disagrees with you
everything you said goes away with canvas and video games.
"durrrr video gaimes no belongy on interwebzzzz bcuz the DOM is for word documents onlyyyyyyyyy steve ballmer said sooooo" – an idiotic luddite
wasm runtimes are the next app platform or will inspire it
if you want it to go away, everyone who is working on it and making it work right now disagrees with you
I'm sure most people wouldn't like losing their jobs.
Yeah if wars were somehow abolished for good, a LOT of people working in arms manufacturing would be pissed.
itch.io is a sin against the web. Those idiotic people... enjoying non document based web applications... they are destroying the internet!
The godot foundation is a destructive force and must be ended before all of the web as we know it has capitulated to.... javascript and non DOM APIs!!!!!!!!!
My favorite part is how this meme itself consists entirely of plain text plus a little styling.
You want graphical interfaces? We already have a solution for it and it's called ncurses!
To be fair web is still more cross-platform UI than anything else while Apple and Google try to distance their compatibility even further.
I tried to get on board with this one, but "cross platform apps" made me throw up in my mouth a little. The unholy things we did back then are best left forgotten in their shallow binary graves.
Honestly images were a step too far. And bring back the blink tag.
I would prefer webapps to native if there was a protocol to fully load the page and disable network traffic for apps that work fully offline.
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