“Drivers will retaliate against you if you do not cover the part of their wage we refuse to pay them.”

There, fixed that for you, DoorDash.

Door dash takes waaaay too much on bs fees from restaurants. If you have to use their app I'd suggest using it to browse menus, calling the restaurant directly and asking if they deliver and order it through them, heck pick up if you can. Fuck all these greedy apps nickle and diming everything.

What kind of "tip" is paid upfront before the service is rendered?

Call the spot, order it, and go get the food your fuckin self. Stop spending an extra 35% to have somebody working three jobs get it for you.

How about letting us tip afterwards not before. That way we know how much to tip.

Then it’s not a tip and they should include it in the price

I used to order meals sometimes through these kinds of delivery services but not anymore.

At first they were quite good but then they added extra "service fees" and the markup on the food increased, so did the delivery charge, it's a joke now and I haven't used them for a long time, and there's no good reason to, now.

Tipping is literally becoming extortion now.

The end result of the tipping surge is going to be the collapse of all tipped work. People will stop using tipped services entirely and eventually the pyramid of wealthy users who can afford increasingly high tip is going to shrink.

So pretty much the same as if you do tip.

That's why the ridiculous North American tipping culture needs to be called out as much as possible.

Fuck tips.

The order through Door Dash:

• $20
• $2 Tax
• $8 Door Dash Charge
• $6 Initial Tip
• $10 for the Substitution up charge
• $1 Tax for that purchase
• $9 'Fuck you' charge
• $4 Follow Up Tip Total: $60 for your $20 meal you could've just gotten your own damn self.

This implies that your food won't arrive cold if you do tip, and that hasn't been my experience at all.

I stopped using DoorDash when their fees and overall cost doubled what it should be.

I'll walk down and get it myself.

Is it too much to ask that I might be able to just pay for this service? Sometimes I want or need food ordered. If it costs $20 to have it delivered, and pay the delivery person fairly, sometimes that's worth the cost to me. I wish tips were an extra for "thanks for doing something above and beyond or awesome". They shouldn't need to be expected.

$1.99 convenience fee $4.25 app fee $3.99 delivery fee Oh, and don't forget to tip your driver because none of this goes to them.

^^^^ this cap needs to stop. Just give me the $15-$20 delivery fee and be done with it.

The fee you add for DoorDash etc should not be considered a tip. Tips are given after service is rendered, and are based on the quality of service. These fees are more like a bounty. "I'll pay $10 to the person that brings me a hamburger, dead or alive."

Just another reason to avoid Door Dash: Best to get off your ass and get food. Better yet: Cook your own food!

How lazy and dependent people are if they can be "blackmailed" by the food delivery service and that service doesn't fear a significant loos of customers!

Gross.

Also, in my experience, an tip doesn't even guarantee warm food lol

DD is just explaining that it's a bidding system. Few if any drivers are going to want to drive out of their way to pick it up and deliver it to you for little or no guaranteed tip listed up front and high chance of someone bailing on it anyway. Food sits at the restaurant for a long time

Pretty sure if I were to put a $20 tip I'd have no problems getting someone to accept the order immediately.

I honestly wish people would quit using these delivery services in general.

They literally have done nothing but cause problems in store. They cause people who actually came to the store to have to wait because we got a fuckin door dash order for $60 and we're told to put mobile orders as top priority.

Not to mention all the headaches of trying to contact customers about substitutions or out of stock items. It's just a fuckin mess.

You're paying more for lower quality and I honestly don't even feel bad when I fuck up an order. You'd have been able to tell if you actually came in.

And before anyone brings up disabled people the main users of these delivery services in my area are college kids.

It boggles my mind that people use apps like these

Just go get the food yourself. Forget these delivery companies.

Tips subsidize business owners who don't pay their employees enough.

Tipping needs to die.

I have no problem tipping, I have a problem with DoorDash and Grubhub calculating the tip on the total bill with all their fees included.

I have no problem tipping 20% with a $4 minimum, but it's going to be based on the meal I ordered, not your bullshit service fees.

Which stage of enshittification is this?