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[–] 258 points 1 year ago (16 children)

In authoritarian regimes it isn't uncommon for the state officers and soldiers to engage in casual theft along side their official duties. With the way our country is going, there is a non-zero chance this was an actual ICE officer just working his "side hustle".

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  • [–] 95 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    American cops have been robbers for a long, long time under the guise of civil forfeiture.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That is "legal" theft, which can be fought in court, and isn't what I'm referring to. A law enforcement officer committing theft not associated with their duties is what I'm talking about like this example reported just yesterday.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    "Legal theft". Careful not to choke on your words. It is a well known and well documented abuse of the legal system. A great many police departments, corrupt even more than usual, use it to fund departmental expenses, staff perks and bonuses.

    Fighting street level injustice through inaccessible and notoriously corrupt courts is also a sad joke.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You are very lucky if they stop with casual theft.

    Lavrentiy Beria, the head of the secret police in Stalin's USSR was a serial rapist and murderer. He had at least hundreds women and children kidnapped off the street, both people who weren't missed but also celebrities, and raped them and then murdered them if they wouldn't pretend it was consensual. A pile of bones covered with lime was uncovered near his one-time residence 15 years ago, but contemporary testimonies say that his torture chamber of a basement had underground passages to other burial sites.

    Once some people are above the law, nothing is off the table.

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    [–] 114 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Or was he a real ICE agent with a side hustle?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Either way, this person is incredibly ballsy and an absolute genius, especially if they just leave with the money and don't actually take anyone (to avoid kidnapping charges).

    All you gotta do is go to your van to "get an evidence bag" or "handcuffs", then start the engine and drive off. By the time they realize that you're never coming back for the zip tied person, you're already hid the van and swapped outfits several miles away from the crime scene.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Only one thing to do now. We have to treat all ICE agents like armed criminals until they show their face, a badge, and a warrant.

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    [–] 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Everybody pretends to be an ICE agent to steal or commit violence, it is an utterly illegitimate mob of thugs loyal to a dictator.

    The only thing that isn't pretend about ICE is the bigotry and violence.

    I see no meaningful difference between these people and "actual ICE agents".

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    [–] 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I hope we start seeing people dressing up as ICE agents and then disappearing real ICE agents while they're off duty. Just round them up. When they protest and try to show their citizenship papers, just call them fake. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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    [–] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Remember, in the US, you can be charged for obstructing a plain-clothes officer's duties even before they ID themselves. (I'm not a lawyer but you could refer to 18 USC 111 or 18 USC 1501, or the fact that police don't need to know the law properly to enforce it, Heien v. North Carolina)

    And, fake-ICE cosplayers like this guy can have their charges dropped by DOJ or pardoned by Trump.

    So if you get visited by someone unknown, you're damned if you do or you don't. Demand a judicial warrant and wait to receive one with an actual judge's signature, before you open the door to agents you don't know.

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    [–] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If ICE agents behave like criminal thugs why wouldn't criminal thugs behave like ICE agents?

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    [–] 45 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    After the guy left the lady was probably like “thank god that wasn’t an ice agent.”

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    Dear Americans,

    You're well within your right to shoot ICE agents on sight.

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nah, this isn’t what we feared would happen. We’re equally concerned with the actual officers committing crimes against people, if not more so due to their access to resources and being backed by the government.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, I mean how do we know for sure this wasn't actually an ICE agent? Because ICE said he wasn't? Why would I trust those assholes?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You’re missing the point. I don’t care if he’s a real ICE agent. ICE agents’ detentions are also illegal kidnapping. If anything, it’s worse when the official agents are the ones doing it.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    Remember the right claiming Floyd protesters were all looters? Itso happens whenever the nation is in distress (in this economical and societal context) the smartest of potential crimedoers would take that as an opportunity. Whenever it's some natural disaster or social conflict, there would be some to use it. And it's fucking frightening that America came to the point that the thing that bothers us is that thugs didn't have a real license to do thugs' things, and every other article going by the #ICE tag is not just stealing, but kidnapping people into Salvador camps, so getting mugged by fake ICE officer is better than meeting the real ones now? It's a fucking circus.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    How many ''ICE'' agents does it take to empty out a bank? I'm thinking of writing a Hollywood film.

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    It is like they should be identifiable. I forgot, but a member of congress made a good point how police have arrested way more dangerous people with their face and ID showing.

    Nobody believes the made up attacks on ICE they just don't want the social backlash of being casted out of their communities.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    He low key helped show why we want law officers to have a branded uniform, name tag and provide ID.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And now ICE agents are going to be attacked as criminals.

    How can you police a population if no one can identify which are the cops and which are the criminals?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah its defintely shoot on sight for ice, people CAN'T tell if they are safe and a jury of their peers would let them walk.

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    [+] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)
    1. This is intentionally ambiguous
    2. We have no way to say this wasn't ICE
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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    White people trying to get rich the same way they’ve been getting rich for the last 600 years: by stealing from brown people.

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Many commenters totally predicted this sort of thing.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How do we know it wasn't just a regular ice agent?

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Just waiting for someone to dress up like ICE and kidnap ICE so we can have ICE with our ICE

    Yo dawg...

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    So the solution to the forced deportation is to dress everybody in ICE "uniforms" and deport the deporter?

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