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[–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

We'll make our own free trade agreement. With blackjack and hookers!

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Canada will join the EU by 2028

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Our telcos would block it for sure

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I will happily burn down a Telus office building if it means entry into the EU.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Yes! Cheese! Chocolate! Gummibears!!

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I hear Asia is seeking rare earth minerals and energy

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Didn't we recently sign a major contract with Japan for natural gas? On top of the new natural gas facility we're building in BC?

    Though I suspect that this relationship will only be good for a decade or two, becoming the #1 supplier of natural gas to eastern Asia will be good both from an economic and political stance, as that's the area that is likely to have the biggest economic impact on the world aside from India over the next half century.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Let me get this straight. Canada a country already over burdened with regulations with a faltering economy wants to join the EU an other over regulated market with faltering economy? No thanks

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Probably by fair trading without US oligarchs and its unhinged financial sector sucking up all profit derived from their respective countries. And hopefully with more equal wealth distribution not completely derailing nice infographics. Because the one above is utterly useless if what you care for actually is quality of life, not just numbers going up.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    We already have a major free trade agreement with the EU, and we're not burdened by their regulations on most resources that we want to export to them anyways.

    This is different from those people who are talking about actually joining the EU. We're just shipping our raw resources (or preferably refined resources).

    And frankly speaking, a lot of the US's growth comes from the fact that they've been taking advantage of their legacy infrastructure like 60 year old power plants, and the fact that we sell them oil and minerals at costs much lower than the world average. We redirect a ton of that to the EU and other countries, and the US's growth with drastically slow down while giving us huge growth as the profit margin of our products will rise substantially.

    EU might not be as rich as the US, but it is still quite rich, and isn't about to collapse under its own weight like China. As economies go, they are literally the next best thing after the US, and their reliability makes them far more attractive partners for the next half century.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Based on what the US has been doing over the past month, I'm not so sure your trend will continue like this. And in any case, the US is at best an unreliable trading partner, and at worst an enemy of Canada, so we need new trading partners. The EU seems like as good as any.

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  • [+] -25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    More trade with EU is great. All for it. Trade with China and friendly relations/trade with Russia is needed because these are countries that will help stand up against US. Getting a commitment for next agricultural harvests to export to China/asia or EU is a critical win to displace US agriculture.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Trade with Russia? WTF does Russia offer but trolls and BS

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  • [+] -37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Unless you think Ukraine can stand up to US more than Russia, it's the wrong side to back. Caring more about Ukraine than Canada is normal for downvoters.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah I'd rather die fighting than fight alongside people I'd like to fight.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Maybe it's all Europeans downvoting me. Keep in mind that very extensive US led propaganda is responsible for your hatreds.

    For Canada, and what should be Europeans too, the phantom threat of Russia should not be weighed as a real threat. The direct tangilbe threat of war by US should weigh very heavily.

    If the downvotes are not all from your propaganda handlers, you don't have time to be too shocked to lose your fantasized hatred (direct cause of your economic and political underperformance/destruction since Ukraine war) in order to deal with the real hatred towards you, that comes from the same assholes who've be propagandizing you all along.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's a lot of words for a ruski propaganda bot.

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  • [+] -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "US bad" does not mean "Russia good".

    "US bad" and "Russia bad" can both be true simultaneously. Didn't Russia want a multipolar world? How about we the sane countries form another pole?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago

    A multipolar world is one where countries outside of US get a say. Basic respect for Russia instead of demonic anti-human diminishment goals of pretending you can create a civil war there is multipolarism. That Canada and other former NATO colonies form a "shared values" block is a terrific idea. That US be favoured over Russia is a bad idea, without giving Russia all of the same authority over Canada that US currently holds. Choosing independence is right path for Canada. Not finding a new slave master.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well you do make a point, except for the fact that you support teaming up with Russia.

    So I think you just thought a bit too much about it and lost track of morals and ideals.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    morals and ideals.

    Shitting on Russia is popular propaganda, that "we" always believe because we've always shit on Russia (except perhaps when Yeltsin was giving the country away to US backed oligarchs). Every lie is true because we unquestionably believed every previous lie. There is only pure demonism instead of "moral high ground" in diminishing other countries. "Liberal supremacy ideals" that give us the right to destroy "less liberally ideal" societies is not significantly different than right wing ethnic supremacism.

    Instead of fixating on "those American indoctrinated ideals that the US used to have", waking up to "The US has declared war on Canada", and ending our enemy relationship to the US's enemy is step 1 in defending ourselves. That you hope Europe will be closer friends with us, is a nice thing to hope for, but all NATO colonies cowering in fear and not doing anything together is not an effective alliance. A sewing circle for the abused wives club waiting for big daddy to come into the room, and then point at each other over who should be ravaged is not the best defense.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    As a European, I don't need US propaganda to know what Russia has done to my people and other European peoples not just in recent history but for centuries. Recent Russian actions are simply a continuation of the same. Their excuses change but their actions don't.

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  • [+] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not talking about the USSR, I'm talking about Russia before the USSR, as a part of the USSR, and after the USSR. Other than that I can't comment on anything you're saying because I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I see we finally got to the bad faith twisting of your opponent's words, a favorite tactic of tankies.

    Why is it their favorite? Because there is nothing they can say to make the fact of Russian imperialism seem more palatable, so they have to instead twist the words describing that imperialism into russophobia.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Only empire today is US. That a few other countries cling to a sphere of influence, and are capable of resisting US led demonism against them does not make them empires. The real tankies,today, are those who cheer US imperialism.

    But back to Canada, understanding the US is coming for them, requires a wake up call to prevent. Our European "friends" that we need to share their hatred above our survival is an "interesting expression" of friendship.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just because the US "demonizes" some countries, as you put it, does not mean that there are no legitimate reasons for opposing the influence of those countries. That is not hatred, that is realism.

    Ignoring the bad actors in the world and letting them have their way will not make the world a better place, no matter how much those bad actors think they have "a right" to "be respected" or whatever line they're peddling this time. Yes, that includes both the current Russian and US administrations.

    I'm done with this conversation, I have better things to do with the rest of my Sunday.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    Just because the US β€œdemonizes” some countries, as you put it, does not mean that there are no legitimate reasons for opposing the influence of those countries. That is not hatred, that is realism.

    Russia only asks of Ukraine not to join NATO, and host US missile bases, and to stop being hateful. If US supported French supremacists in Switzerland to exterminate their German population then point missiles at Germany, should Germany do anything? Object at all? All US allies siding with the US on such diminishment would declare "Germany the bad actor". Resentment against "Former German regimes" would have nothing related to current hatred/propaganda against Germany. The world of US sycophancy means nothing is real anymore.

    A Canadian toddler should understand that a country that has never threatened us makes a better friend/no longer enemy status than a current enemy that has them as enemy status.

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