▲ 996 ▼ i will never understand scientific fraud (files.catbox.moe) submitted 2 years ago* by nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 84 comments fedilink hide all child comments like you go to the not-believing-until-seeing convention with lies and what? expect to get away with it?
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure but money motivates more people than clout alone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's only because money exists. If you removed money from the equation, clout would be the new currency that everyone lies and cheats for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thats entirely hypothetical and unprovable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago OK, so money corrupts, money exists, everything is corrupt. What's the point of pointing that out? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But being caught in a lie would destroy your clout instantly. If they're competing for clout there would be a big incentive to prove the competition wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago There is something to that, in that money gained will be kept (unless lawsuits can claw it away for fraud), but with both scenarios the ethically lacking individual would still have enjoyed the time until they were caught and future money/clout would both be hampered. As for competition, that sounds the same to me. There is already competition for positions and grants, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's only because money exists. If you removed money from the equation, clout would be the new currency that everyone lies and cheats for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thats entirely hypothetical and unprovable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago OK, so money corrupts, money exists, everything is corrupt. What's the point of pointing that out? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But being caught in a lie would destroy your clout instantly. If they're competing for clout there would be a big incentive to prove the competition wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago There is something to that, in that money gained will be kept (unless lawsuits can claw it away for fraud), but with both scenarios the ethically lacking individual would still have enjoyed the time until they were caught and future money/clout would both be hampered. As for competition, that sounds the same to me. There is already competition for positions and grants, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thats entirely hypothetical and unprovable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago OK, so money corrupts, money exists, everything is corrupt. What's the point of pointing that out? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago OK, so money corrupts, money exists, everything is corrupt. What's the point of pointing that out? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But being caught in a lie would destroy your clout instantly. If they're competing for clout there would be a big incentive to prove the competition wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago There is something to that, in that money gained will be kept (unless lawsuits can claw it away for fraud), but with both scenarios the ethically lacking individual would still have enjoyed the time until they were caught and future money/clout would both be hampered. As for competition, that sounds the same to me. There is already competition for positions and grants, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago There is something to that, in that money gained will be kept (unless lawsuits can claw it away for fraud), but with both scenarios the ethically lacking individual would still have enjoyed the time until they were caught and future money/clout would both be hampered. As for competition, that sounds the same to me. There is already competition for positions and grants, etc. permalink fedilink source parent