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Alberta woman dies after being denied transplant for refusing to get COVID vaccine (nationalpost.com)
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[–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

This vaccine was so incredibly safe that it's ridiculous that she chose to die rather than getting it.

Unlike the transplant meds. Pretty large increase for cancer from them.

Seems weird to refuse a COVID vaccine, but be fine swallowing a ton of meds every 12 hours that increases your risk of cancer significantly.

Obviously me and many others accept that increased risk, because like you said, the other outcome is just dying straight up.

In the end I'm glad the organ went to someone else who will respect and appreciate it.

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  • [–] [S] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    I have a background in chemistry. Early in the pandemic when all the anti-vax nonsense was at its peak I took a look at the ingredients in the three main vaccines in Canada (A-Z, M, and P). For the most part they all included:

    mRNA which we all have in our bodies all the time

    4 salts of which one was table salt

    4 fats of which one was cholesterol

    and sugar.

    That's it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    While I do agree the vaccines are safe enough, saying "mRNA which we all have in our bodies all the time" is a bit misleading. The number of ways an mRNA strand could mess you up is astronomical.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It is not misleading at all. Every single cell in our bodies contains mRNA at all times.

    What are these ways that mRNA could mess you up of which you speak?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Every single cell in our bodies contains mRNA at all times.

    That's like saying computer viruses are fine because they're made of code, which computers are already full of.

    We're full of mRNA, sure, but we're full of mRNA that's supposed to be there.

    What are these ways that mRNA could mess you up of which you speak?

    I'm no biologist, but perhaps mRNA that creates a prion?

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sure, mRNA could be created to create a prion but the mRNA in the vaccine does not. It creates a small fragment of protein similar to a trans-membrane protein on the covid virus.

    I assumed that you had concrete information to share no just wild anti-vax fear mongering.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I am not calling into question the safety of these vaccines. They are safe.

    I'm pointing out that just because something is a salt doesn't make it safe (see Sodium Cyanide), and just because a compound is mRNA doesn't mean it isn't dangerous.

    If you base your assessment of the safety of a drug on the premises you laid out instead of on controlled studies, you're no better than anti-vaxxers.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I am very well aware that you are just being an argumentative pedant. I've been dealing with people like you for years so I recognized it right away.

    I am not calling into question the safety of these vaccines. They are safe.

    Yes, they are.

    I’m pointing out that just because something is a salt doesn’t make it safe (see Sodium Cyanide), and just because a compound is mRNA doesn’t mean it isn’t dangerous.

    All four of the fats in the Covid vaccines naturally occur in or bodies.

    All four of the salts in the Covid vaccines naturally occur in our bodies.

    The tiny fragment of mRNA in the Covid vaccines is perfectly safe.

    The only molecule in the Covid vaccine that is absolutely, provably killing many, many people is β-D-Fructofuranosyl α-D-glucopyranoside.

    If you base your assessment of the safety of a drug on the premises you laid out instead of on controlled studies, you’re no better than anti-vaxxers.

    There WERE controlled studies. Many controlled studies. The main vaccines are demonstrably safe.

    "If you are not a scientist, and you disagree with scientists about science, it’s actually not a disagreement. You're just wrong. Science is not truth. Science is finding the truth. When science changes its opinion, it didn't lie to you. It learned more."

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