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Alberta woman dies after being denied transplant for refusing to get COVID vaccine (nationalpost.com)
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[–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Language will evolve naturally over time. But to claim that hoping your children are intelligent/physically healthy is a form of eugenics is absurd. If QAnon was left-leaning, this is the kind of shit they would say.

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  • [+] -45 points 2 years ago* (3 children)
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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What I said and what you said are not the same thing.

    However, you win the gold medal for mental gymnastics.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I believe that that man was made of straw.

    It's funny when the trolls come out to play and no one picks up what they're putting down.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I could definitely see this person being a troll. What’s wild though is that it seems the linked article was written in earnest.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think it's really funny that no one is taking the bait. All of the responses have been simple, on point, and non-engaging. That's how you deal with a troll.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Disability studies, disability justice, disability theory, crip theory… lots of keywords for you to start googling. The other poster isn’t wrong: prioritizing intelligence and health in a child is the theory behind the practice of eugenics. Yes, these are strong words… but they’re not wrong.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Are you still here flogging this outrage porn? No one is interested.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I am. Disabled people are. People who work with disabled people are. I understand that this topic doesn’t interest you, but that doesn’t mean it’s not fucking important for a lot of us.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You're trying to hijack a conversation that has nothing to do with your rage. It doesn't belong here.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I think that people who are unvaxed shouldn’t get priority for transplants.

    Even so, it’s not inappropriate to call out ableism in any topic. If somebody was racist, or sexist, or discriminatory in any other form, would you say, “Hey, we’re not talking about racism — stop hijacking the conversation”?

    EDIT: For everyone else reading this: This is what people do when they feel uncomfortable with being called out. They deflect, refuse to admit they could be wrong, and stop engaging. That’s actually a fairly normal response. It’s hard to admit that, for example, ableist comments can be as harmful as racist comments. It’s okay to stop talking as long as one doesn’t stop thinking.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago

    I wonder if you’d be able to take a step backward and consider that the linked article was written in earnest because it reflects a valid way of looking at the world that you may never have considered before. People disagreeing with you may not actually be trolling, but presenting their own valid beliefs. Look up disability studies, disability justice, and/or crip theory.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I agree that hoping for an intelligent and physically healthy child definitely reflects an ableist worldview. This is basic disability/crip theory.

    For those who are going to argue: wanting an intelligent child is ableist because it implies that people who are intelligent have more worth than people who are not. It’s assigning the value of a person based on a pretty narrow and Western conceptualization of how people think. A person is valuable not because of their intelligence, but because of their existence — all are equally valuable because they’re people, and everyone is equal. The same goes, believe it or not, for physical disabilities, including health. If you disagree, then you think that not all people are equal, which is problematic, as problematic as hoping that your child is straight, or male, or has blonde hair and blue eyes.

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