Televisions that can stream platforms like Hulu or Max usually come loaded with technology that collects information on what viewers are watching, and buyers consent to have their viewing tracked when they open their new TV and click through terms of service agreements. Sometimes, data firms can connect those viewing habits to a voter’s phone or laptop via their IP address, promising a trove of information about an individual and the ability to track them across screens.

Other times, firms focus on dividing households into groups based on what they’re watching, how they use their TVs and how many campaign ads they’re seeing, which is a boon to political campaigns eager to target specific groups of voters. Connecting this data to voter files is increasingly a focus — a move that adds individual voting habits into the mix.

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[–] 96 points 2 years ago (11 children)

The more and more of stuff like this I see, the kore I just wan't to buy the cheapest possible mini pc, make it tv remote controllable and just put it to open jellyfin directly that's connected to my home media server.

And then hook it up to the most dumb tv I can fijd with decent picture quality.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Just don't let it connect to internet.

    There are no good dumb teevees for home use

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It will work at a premium cost, and only until they start selling them with LTE chips buried away in the motherboard.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So many devices come with those now.... I open up my products and remove the card, the antenna, or the whole board if possible.

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    For example, my sleep apnea machine had a wifi for home and a LTE modem. Data gathered by the machine was sent off-site...no reports available on the host. Privacy policy read it would gather info, run diagnostics on itself and the local network without explanation of what it was doing.

    My sleep data could not be viewed by me, only through the 3rd party, so I ripped out the wifi board and LTE chip. I haul the machine into my doctor office so he can cycle through data on the tiny display.

    He hates it, but I remind him he picked the machine without asking me if I agreed to to the data collection.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Ya fuck that. That's why I have an IOT vlan, though even that has its caveats. Nest speakers with microphones and your sleep apnea machine have some good personal data gathering capabilities despite it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For insurance to cover it the data tells them whether you are using it or not. If you don’t meet the minimum usage they won’t pay for the machine. Buying it yourself negates that, but they can get spendy.

    Do not buy Philips.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    They make you buy the machine... The data is collected for doctor review, but instead of letting me use the open FOSS reporting, it's encrypted so that I can't see my own data.

    After that experience I'm certain sleep apnea machines are a huge insurance racket. 45 dollars for a replacement plastic tube.....lol

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's becoming harder to find TVs that will operate without a network connection

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Even if you just passing your device to it?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I've seen it on some Samsungs and LGs that get real pissy when the TV itself isn't online. I've also heard of some brands (that I don't remember atm) that won't even let you go through the initial setup without a connection.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    ... I've also heard of some brands (that I don't remember atm) that won't even let you go through the initial setup without a connection.

    /Microsoft announced new foray into TVs...

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Where are you getting 120hz content for tv?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    As others have said, just buy a TV that meets your A/V needs and don't connect it to the internet.

    I know everyone talks about Jellyfin these days, but Kodi is an excellent option too if you don't need streaming to multiple devices. I use Kodi via LibreElec on an rpi4 and it's been great. All media is stored on my home server and shared over Samba, but you can easily store it locally on the box if you don't have a server.

    For music streaming, I run a separate instance of miniDLNA on my server, since I like to browse-by-directory for my music instead of relying solely on metadata. This also allows you to stream to any DLNA-friendly device on the LAN.

    I've digitized my disc collection and just keep the physical media as a backup. The local library has a huge selection of media too...and if we don't use it, we'll lose it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Jellyfin has a much nicer user interface and is overall a better way of doing things. But libreElec and Kodi are great at being a cheap open source client that handles lots of different codecs without much fuss.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I honestly don't know why you wouldn't just do jellyfin, unless you're limited by your hardware and kodi somehow has less overhead?

    They're both free I guess. You can try them on and see how well they serve tour use case

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I have my own Emby server and I would love to have a dumb TV instead of my current one. Problem is its 4K screen has absolutely SPOILED me and I don't wanna go back. And I've heard it's difficult to find a 4K dumb TV.

    Also, and most importantly, I'm the kind of person who uses something until it won't work anymore. The way I see it is "My TV is currently 6 years old and yet still working fine so why would I buy another when I don't need one." (Why generate unnecessary waste?) So, I'm waiting until it dies to get another.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Our Smart TV is offline 99% of the time, so I rarely see the smart features. We'll sometimes have company stay over and they'll connect the Ethernet to use the built-in streaming apps with their own credentials, so it's a nice option to have and it doesn't impact us otherwise.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I've tried to do this a few times, and unfortunately it feels like you really have to go all in on managing your own content library.

    Like many, I had stopped pirating shit when netflix etc were "good".

    None of the streaming services want you to use them outside of their official sites/apps, so you end up being limited to like 720p when running them through kodi etc.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago*

    I never touched streaming services, mostly cause they came to my country 2years ago and were already shit they are now, plus cost me too much to even afford one.

    So I just have torrenting setup automated with arr software. ( Don't even need a vpn because my country has no copyright laws so free to torrent whatever I wan't )

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Problem is, wife is the one who insists on having TVs and I know she won't use Jellyfin.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    All spouses can be taught to use Plex or Jellyfin. It just takes the right approach and some determination. Mine is now sailing the high seas with the finest of us.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    All spouses can

    Sorry, did you sleep with my spouse or what?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    that's basically what i had. a cheap laptop for a 'streaming device' and media player with a k400 keyboard with trackpad. connected to a monitor to start, then a cheap tv. don't have a 'media server' though, just a pile of hard drives (externals, or internals with usb adapter or 'dock').

    the tv eventually did get hooked up to wifi but i only use it for a couple 'free' apps that require no signin and work through pihole ok. mostly the 'tv' is playing a random playlist.

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