▲ 220 ▼ Chinese cars are pouring into Mexico — and the U.S. is worried - Autoblog (www.autoblog.com) submitted 2 years ago by schizoidman@lemmy.ml to c/world@lemmy.world 120 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) is it hard to.. ya know... hypothetically obtain one of these cheaper, mexican imported evs? askin for a huh friend permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (4 children) No, you cant import it. They dont meet safety standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Killer57@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) I am sick and tired of people claiming that BYD are unsafe They have crash tested better than my current vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago hey shut up we're in a china bad brigade permalink fedilink source parent [–] gex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Car manufacturers will meet local safety standards, so a BYD sold in the EU is probably going to be safer than a BYD sold in Mexico Here's an example with Peugeot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago In this case BYD lacks a local factory and their profit margins are significant enough that they don't maintain region-specific frame SKUs IIRC. FWIW the Chinese market is one of the biggest for Volvo because Chinese consumers care about (perceived) safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Here's an example with Peugeot Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] totallynotaspy@fedia.io 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotta love American "freedom" sometimes. "Oh you can buy any car you want, well except those dirty foreign ones because checks notes they're totally not up to our safety standards." -_- permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except you know, working airbags, seat belts, fuses, a firewall (as in the sheet of metal separating the engine from the passenger compartment), working crumple zones, 5 mph bumpers, rollover protection, stuff like that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Do you think this is a Ford Pinto? Edit: given that you mention crumple zones... A Tesla Cybertruck? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The pinto was 40 years ago, so thats probably accurate. Makes sense china is 40 years behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Cybertruck was... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safer than any chinese car permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) However, you can import many kei cars and trucks and people are doing it because they're super cheap. https://www.eezyimport.com/importing-the-essence-of-japan-a-guide-to-bringing-kei-trucks-and-cars-to-the-usa/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're almost exclusively being imported as antique vehicles. I don't think you're going to find a cheap, useful, 25-year old Chinese EV, but all the power to you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They sure look cheap to me: https://boekiusa.com/inventory/new-jersey/paterson/all-vehicles/available permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the "anique import loophole" doesn't apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV. Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you missed the point again. That's only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you'll pay tariffs and they'd be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It's only because they're 25+ years old that they aren't subjected to the standard rules on imports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ayuyigq39i@thelemmy.club 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Depends on the state. Several are banning 25 year old kei trucks so they wouldn't outcompete Ford's latest offering of gas guzzling $80,000 kid-crushing F-150s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) What if we elect Trump and he gets rid of safety standards, could we import it then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 15 points 2 years ago No cause he's also gonna ban evs permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago Maybe if he forgets half the shit he's said that directly contradicts the other half, and doesn't try to nuke a hurricane over Mexico. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -6 points 2 years ago You would have go back at least 50 years in safety standards, and thats a little much even if the president had full congressional support behind him permalink fedilink source parent [+] CeeBee@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) If you want yourself or your house to burn in a lítium battery fire, then sure, go for it. Edit: I'm going to tag this post of mine and come back in a few years when all the stories about banning Chinese-made EVs come out because of safety issues. See you all in a couple years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago China bad, what other source do you need? permalink fedilink source parent [+] CeeBee@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013638 https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bev-are-exploding-all-over-china.299443/ https://energytrend.com/news/20221018-30074.html https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101781161/there-are-about-2000-fires-in-more-than-800000-electric-vehicle-related-enterprises-in-china-every-year https://youtube.com/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4 https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/chinese-evs-become-virtually-uninsurable-in-the-uk-says-report/ https://www.qatar-tribune.com/article/113062/business/failure-of-evs-in-china-calls-for-more-research https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761067/nio-es8-electric-suv-recall-battery-fires-china Keep in mind that negative stories from China (anything that casts China itself or people/companies within China) are heavily and aggressively censored. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao you don't even want to know about Tesla battery fires I take it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's an EV problem, not a China problem... Unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. China's lack of regulations make a bad thing worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (4 children) No, you cant import it. They dont meet safety standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Killer57@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) I am sick and tired of people claiming that BYD are unsafe They have crash tested better than my current vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago hey shut up we're in a china bad brigade permalink fedilink source parent [–] gex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Car manufacturers will meet local safety standards, so a BYD sold in the EU is probably going to be safer than a BYD sold in Mexico Here's an example with Peugeot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago In this case BYD lacks a local factory and their profit margins are significant enough that they don't maintain region-specific frame SKUs IIRC. FWIW the Chinese market is one of the biggest for Volvo because Chinese consumers care about (perceived) safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Here's an example with Peugeot Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] totallynotaspy@fedia.io 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotta love American "freedom" sometimes. "Oh you can buy any car you want, well except those dirty foreign ones because checks notes they're totally not up to our safety standards." -_- permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except you know, working airbags, seat belts, fuses, a firewall (as in the sheet of metal separating the engine from the passenger compartment), working crumple zones, 5 mph bumpers, rollover protection, stuff like that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Do you think this is a Ford Pinto? Edit: given that you mention crumple zones... A Tesla Cybertruck? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The pinto was 40 years ago, so thats probably accurate. Makes sense china is 40 years behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Cybertruck was... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safer than any chinese car permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) However, you can import many kei cars and trucks and people are doing it because they're super cheap. https://www.eezyimport.com/importing-the-essence-of-japan-a-guide-to-bringing-kei-trucks-and-cars-to-the-usa/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're almost exclusively being imported as antique vehicles. I don't think you're going to find a cheap, useful, 25-year old Chinese EV, but all the power to you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They sure look cheap to me: https://boekiusa.com/inventory/new-jersey/paterson/all-vehicles/available permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the "anique import loophole" doesn't apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV. Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you missed the point again. That's only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you'll pay tariffs and they'd be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It's only because they're 25+ years old that they aren't subjected to the standard rules on imports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ayuyigq39i@thelemmy.club 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Depends on the state. Several are banning 25 year old kei trucks so they wouldn't outcompete Ford's latest offering of gas guzzling $80,000 kid-crushing F-150s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) What if we elect Trump and he gets rid of safety standards, could we import it then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 15 points 2 years ago No cause he's also gonna ban evs permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago Maybe if he forgets half the shit he's said that directly contradicts the other half, and doesn't try to nuke a hurricane over Mexico. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -6 points 2 years ago You would have go back at least 50 years in safety standards, and thats a little much even if the president had full congressional support behind him permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Killer57@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) I am sick and tired of people claiming that BYD are unsafe They have crash tested better than my current vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago hey shut up we're in a china bad brigade permalink fedilink source parent [–] gex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Car manufacturers will meet local safety standards, so a BYD sold in the EU is probably going to be safer than a BYD sold in Mexico Here's an example with Peugeot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago In this case BYD lacks a local factory and their profit margins are significant enough that they don't maintain region-specific frame SKUs IIRC. FWIW the Chinese market is one of the biggest for Volvo because Chinese consumers care about (perceived) safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Here's an example with Peugeot Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago hey shut up we're in a china bad brigade permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Car manufacturers will meet local safety standards, so a BYD sold in the EU is probably going to be safer than a BYD sold in Mexico Here's an example with Peugeot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago In this case BYD lacks a local factory and their profit margins are significant enough that they don't maintain region-specific frame SKUs IIRC. FWIW the Chinese market is one of the biggest for Volvo because Chinese consumers care about (perceived) safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Here's an example with Peugeot Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago In this case BYD lacks a local factory and their profit margins are significant enough that they don't maintain region-specific frame SKUs IIRC. FWIW the Chinese market is one of the biggest for Volvo because Chinese consumers care about (perceived) safety. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] totallynotaspy@fedia.io 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotta love American "freedom" sometimes. "Oh you can buy any car you want, well except those dirty foreign ones because checks notes they're totally not up to our safety standards." -_- permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except you know, working airbags, seat belts, fuses, a firewall (as in the sheet of metal separating the engine from the passenger compartment), working crumple zones, 5 mph bumpers, rollover protection, stuff like that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Do you think this is a Ford Pinto? Edit: given that you mention crumple zones... A Tesla Cybertruck? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The pinto was 40 years ago, so thats probably accurate. Makes sense china is 40 years behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Cybertruck was... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safer than any chinese car permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except you know, working airbags, seat belts, fuses, a firewall (as in the sheet of metal separating the engine from the passenger compartment), working crumple zones, 5 mph bumpers, rollover protection, stuff like that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Do you think this is a Ford Pinto? Edit: given that you mention crumple zones... A Tesla Cybertruck? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The pinto was 40 years ago, so thats probably accurate. Makes sense china is 40 years behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Cybertruck was... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safer than any chinese car permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Do you think this is a Ford Pinto? Edit: given that you mention crumple zones... A Tesla Cybertruck? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The pinto was 40 years ago, so thats probably accurate. Makes sense china is 40 years behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Cybertruck was... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safer than any chinese car permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The pinto was 40 years ago, so thats probably accurate. Makes sense china is 40 years behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Cybertruck was... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safer than any chinese car permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Cybertruck was... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safer than any chinese car permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safer than any chinese car permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Don't feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) However, you can import many kei cars and trucks and people are doing it because they're super cheap. https://www.eezyimport.com/importing-the-essence-of-japan-a-guide-to-bringing-kei-trucks-and-cars-to-the-usa/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're almost exclusively being imported as antique vehicles. I don't think you're going to find a cheap, useful, 25-year old Chinese EV, but all the power to you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They sure look cheap to me: https://boekiusa.com/inventory/new-jersey/paterson/all-vehicles/available permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the "anique import loophole" doesn't apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV. Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you missed the point again. That's only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you'll pay tariffs and they'd be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It's only because they're 25+ years old that they aren't subjected to the standard rules on imports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ayuyigq39i@thelemmy.club 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Depends on the state. Several are banning 25 year old kei trucks so they wouldn't outcompete Ford's latest offering of gas guzzling $80,000 kid-crushing F-150s. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're almost exclusively being imported as antique vehicles. I don't think you're going to find a cheap, useful, 25-year old Chinese EV, but all the power to you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They sure look cheap to me: https://boekiusa.com/inventory/new-jersey/paterson/all-vehicles/available permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the "anique import loophole" doesn't apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV. Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you missed the point again. That's only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you'll pay tariffs and they'd be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It's only because they're 25+ years old that they aren't subjected to the standard rules on imports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ayuyigq39i@thelemmy.club 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They sure look cheap to me: https://boekiusa.com/inventory/new-jersey/paterson/all-vehicles/available permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the "anique import loophole" doesn't apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV. Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you missed the point again. That's only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you'll pay tariffs and they'd be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It's only because they're 25+ years old that they aren't subjected to the standard rules on imports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ayuyigq39i@thelemmy.club 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the "anique import loophole" doesn't apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV. Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you missed the point again. That's only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you'll pay tariffs and they'd be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It's only because they're 25+ years old that they aren't subjected to the standard rules on imports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV. Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you missed the point again. That's only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you'll pay tariffs and they'd be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It's only because they're 25+ years old that they aren't subjected to the standard rules on imports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you missed the point again. That's only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you'll pay tariffs and they'd be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It's only because they're 25+ years old that they aren't subjected to the standard rules on imports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be why I said I wasn't sure if you could import it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's fair, it probably wouldn't be importable (until 2047) since it likely wouldn't pass the fmv safety tests. I just wanted to stress that the loophole that allows them to be imported requires the vehicle to be 25+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Depends on the state. Several are banning 25 year old kei trucks so they wouldn't outcompete Ford's latest offering of gas guzzling $80,000 kid-crushing F-150s. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) What if we elect Trump and he gets rid of safety standards, could we import it then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 15 points 2 years ago No cause he's also gonna ban evs permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago Maybe if he forgets half the shit he's said that directly contradicts the other half, and doesn't try to nuke a hurricane over Mexico. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -6 points 2 years ago You would have go back at least 50 years in safety standards, and thats a little much even if the president had full congressional support behind him permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 15 points 2 years ago No cause he's also gonna ban evs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago Maybe if he forgets half the shit he's said that directly contradicts the other half, and doesn't try to nuke a hurricane over Mexico. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -6 points 2 years ago You would have go back at least 50 years in safety standards, and thats a little much even if the president had full congressional support behind him permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CeeBee@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) If you want yourself or your house to burn in a lítium battery fire, then sure, go for it. Edit: I'm going to tag this post of mine and come back in a few years when all the stories about banning Chinese-made EVs come out because of safety issues. See you all in a couple years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago China bad, what other source do you need? permalink fedilink source parent [+] CeeBee@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013638 https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bev-are-exploding-all-over-china.299443/ https://energytrend.com/news/20221018-30074.html https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101781161/there-are-about-2000-fires-in-more-than-800000-electric-vehicle-related-enterprises-in-china-every-year https://youtube.com/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4 https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/chinese-evs-become-virtually-uninsurable-in-the-uk-says-report/ https://www.qatar-tribune.com/article/113062/business/failure-of-evs-in-china-calls-for-more-research https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761067/nio-es8-electric-suv-recall-battery-fires-china Keep in mind that negative stories from China (anything that casts China itself or people/companies within China) are heavily and aggressively censored. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao you don't even want to know about Tesla battery fires I take it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's an EV problem, not a China problem... Unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. China's lack of regulations make a bad thing worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago China bad, what other source do you need? permalink fedilink source parent [+] CeeBee@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013638 https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bev-are-exploding-all-over-china.299443/ https://energytrend.com/news/20221018-30074.html https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101781161/there-are-about-2000-fires-in-more-than-800000-electric-vehicle-related-enterprises-in-china-every-year https://youtube.com/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4 https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/chinese-evs-become-virtually-uninsurable-in-the-uk-says-report/ https://www.qatar-tribune.com/article/113062/business/failure-of-evs-in-china-calls-for-more-research https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761067/nio-es8-electric-suv-recall-battery-fires-china Keep in mind that negative stories from China (anything that casts China itself or people/companies within China) are heavily and aggressively censored. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao you don't even want to know about Tesla battery fires I take it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's an EV problem, not a China problem... Unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. China's lack of regulations make a bad thing worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago China bad, what other source do you need? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CeeBee@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013638 https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bev-are-exploding-all-over-china.299443/ https://energytrend.com/news/20221018-30074.html https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101781161/there-are-about-2000-fires-in-more-than-800000-electric-vehicle-related-enterprises-in-china-every-year https://youtube.com/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4 https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/chinese-evs-become-virtually-uninsurable-in-the-uk-says-report/ https://www.qatar-tribune.com/article/113062/business/failure-of-evs-in-china-calls-for-more-research https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761067/nio-es8-electric-suv-recall-battery-fires-china Keep in mind that negative stories from China (anything that casts China itself or people/companies within China) are heavily and aggressively censored. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao you don't even want to know about Tesla battery fires I take it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's an EV problem, not a China problem... Unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. China's lack of regulations make a bad thing worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao you don't even want to know about Tesla battery fires I take it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's an EV problem, not a China problem... Unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. China's lack of regulations make a bad thing worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's an EV problem, not a China problem... Unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. China's lack of regulations make a bad thing worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's an EV problem, not a China problem... Unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. China's lack of regulations make a bad thing worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. China's lack of regulations make a bad thing worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) But we're not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't understand why you're referring to China's regulations all the time. They are irrelevant. I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There's a lot that gets looked the other way. And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn't because "we couldn't get the regulation changed on that one". (I don't remember what that specific thing was) Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla's have a very good track record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago and you're complaining about the batteries lmfao permalink fedilink source parent
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