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School is just one simplification after the other (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

WAS PRECEDED BY LITERAL MILLIONS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES WHO HAD BEEN LIVING THERE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

That's a very pedantic way to look at it. When teachers talk about the discovery of the Americas, there's an obvious implied "by the Europeans, for the purpose of permanent settlement" attached to it. Answering the question "who first visited Japan?" with "The Japanese" is completely useless, as an analogue.

Now, if you were to talk about how the Scandinavians settled bits of Canada at least 500 years before Columbus was born, that'd be much more interesting.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Using the word discovered erases the fact that the indigenous peoples were there first, by thousands of years, and that they're all people of equal humanity to columbus.

    Trying to insist that genoese serial child rapist is the discoverer of jack shit is literally telling indigenous folks "our bottom of the grease barrel worst still count more than your most important."

    As for the norse, is it any wonder everyone forgets about them when even they forgot about it in the intervening centuries. They literally thought the chick who lead the second expedition was a fictional character meant to represent how batshit insane pagans were before her cool younger brother convinced everyone to be nice and christian instead.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    were there first, by thousands of years, and that they’re all people of equal humanity to columbus.

    But they're not the cultural head of the current society, so that's irrelevant.

    Trying to insist that genoese serial child rapist is the discoverer of jack shit is literally telling indigenous folks “our bottom of the grease barrel worst still count more than your most important.”

    Fallacy, appeal to emotion. The only thing it tells is exactly what it tells - an expedition organized by Columbus was the first European voyage to reach the Americas with the intention of permanent settlement.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah sure keep stanning the child rapist buddy, maybe try this line around your debate club coach so they can remind you what the fallacy fallacy is you contrarian walnut.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Fallacy fallacy doesn't apply, you pedantic child, as I've described why your line of argument is invalid. Maybe at least read the wikipedia article in its entirety before pretending to know what you're talking about.

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