▲ 354 ▼ Do they still make these posters? (lemmy.today) submitted 2 years ago by CMake@lemmy.today to c/facepalm@lemmy.world 250 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 149 points 2 years ago (4 children) Wait, that's actually a real poster? What. The. Fuck. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 216 points 2 years ago (27 children) Yea, both were drunk but fuck Jake and his rights because he has the penis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can understand and appreciate the intentions, but there are few things worse than good intentions without intelligence, flexibility and nuance, as the statements below seem accurate and feel utterly screwed up: He got drunk and had sex with a woman - HE goes to jail. She got drunk and had sex with a man - HE goes to jail. It's almost like what Public Enemy said in "Fear Of A Black Planet": Black man, black woman - black baby White man, black woman - black baby Black man, white woman - black baby permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I feel like there's a saying, something about hell and intentions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unreachable@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago ah, yes. a simpler time when one is EASILY identified either by penis OR vagina ONLY. unlike today. ^/j permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (25 replies) [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 years ago (32 children) I mean, it is more than a bit sexist but... that is probably the demographic who need to understand this in a college environment. Consent is incredibly important and a LOT of media for the past few decades shat on it. No, I don't (just) mean how basically every movie in the 80s was about raping people. I mean even "Okay, what if we got you/her drunk?" and so forth. I want to say even Friends and Seinfeld played the idea of one of the guys getting their girlfriend drunk for laughs (well, I think Jerry used turkey?). Reminding people "that is a crime and you can go to jail" is important... even if people rapidly learn that rich white guys never go to jail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know two males who were raped by women when unconscious in college, and neither of them were okay with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children) People always picture a huge unattractive woman when this gets brought up. But one of my college roommates got raped by a girl who was at least "an 8". They had hooked when he was blackout and she was just tipsy. He wanted nothing to do with her tho, and told her that repeatedly. She was just hot, young, and had never been turned down before. So like a week later we have a party he's not at. She showed up early, had two beers, then went to "wait" in his bed. Even though everyone was telling her not to do that. When he shows up, still wants nothing to do with her, so just gets blacked out at the party instead of kicking her out of his bed asap. I guess trying to wait her out and hoping she'd eventually give up. By the time he finally goes to bed, he's blacked out and she's been in there line 6-8 hours and completely sober. Next morning she teased him about how they had sex again but he kept falling asleep during it. If he was a chick, no one would argue that the second time was rape. Hell, we'd have probably fought a guy if he kept insisting he was going to "wait" in a drunk girls bed who was clear she didn't want anything to do with him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* Yes, it happens, and it can be very emotionally damaging for men too. One of the guys I was talking about was a virgin, and wanted to wait until he was married to have sex. He passed out in a bedroom at a party, and one of the women there stripped him naked, got him hard, and had sex with him. He was only vaguely conscious when this was happening. He had a very difficult time accepting that his years worth of discipline and sacrifice were stolen from him. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago But if he didn't want to have sex he had no business drinking! He should have known she wanted to bone down, and his drinking is an implicit yes! I'm being sarcastic, yes, but I only think to post this because while reading your comment, I had a bit of a knee jerk "he shouldn't do that" to him getting drunk again. This is part of why this rhetoric is damaging. People who CAN reason past those immediate reactions even start to get tripped up. I can't imagine being a teen and how confusing all of this mess must be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Infynis@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, the Seinfeld episode, he fed her enough to make her fall asleep so he could play with her collectable toys permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Seinfeld raped those toys because she ate turkey permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago BrandNewSentence permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (30 replies) [–] stoly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago Yes this actually was a thing for many years. They actually made women into children and men the only responsible party. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be fair there aren't many restrictions on what can be on a poster permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago On my new poster "RagingRobot. Pedophile or Saint you choose. Detach below." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 216 points 2 years ago (27 children) Yea, both were drunk but fuck Jake and his rights because he has the penis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can understand and appreciate the intentions, but there are few things worse than good intentions without intelligence, flexibility and nuance, as the statements below seem accurate and feel utterly screwed up: He got drunk and had sex with a woman - HE goes to jail. She got drunk and had sex with a man - HE goes to jail. It's almost like what Public Enemy said in "Fear Of A Black Planet": Black man, black woman - black baby White man, black woman - black baby Black man, white woman - black baby permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I feel like there's a saying, something about hell and intentions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unreachable@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago ah, yes. a simpler time when one is EASILY identified either by penis OR vagina ONLY. unlike today. ^/j permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (25 replies)
[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can understand and appreciate the intentions, but there are few things worse than good intentions without intelligence, flexibility and nuance, as the statements below seem accurate and feel utterly screwed up: He got drunk and had sex with a woman - HE goes to jail. She got drunk and had sex with a man - HE goes to jail. It's almost like what Public Enemy said in "Fear Of A Black Planet": Black man, black woman - black baby White man, black woman - black baby Black man, white woman - black baby permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I feel like there's a saying, something about hell and intentions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I feel like there's a saying, something about hell and intentions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unreachable@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago ah, yes. a simpler time when one is EASILY identified either by penis OR vagina ONLY. unlike today. ^/j permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 years ago (32 children) I mean, it is more than a bit sexist but... that is probably the demographic who need to understand this in a college environment. Consent is incredibly important and a LOT of media for the past few decades shat on it. No, I don't (just) mean how basically every movie in the 80s was about raping people. I mean even "Okay, what if we got you/her drunk?" and so forth. I want to say even Friends and Seinfeld played the idea of one of the guys getting their girlfriend drunk for laughs (well, I think Jerry used turkey?). Reminding people "that is a crime and you can go to jail" is important... even if people rapidly learn that rich white guys never go to jail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know two males who were raped by women when unconscious in college, and neither of them were okay with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children) People always picture a huge unattractive woman when this gets brought up. But one of my college roommates got raped by a girl who was at least "an 8". They had hooked when he was blackout and she was just tipsy. He wanted nothing to do with her tho, and told her that repeatedly. She was just hot, young, and had never been turned down before. So like a week later we have a party he's not at. She showed up early, had two beers, then went to "wait" in his bed. Even though everyone was telling her not to do that. When he shows up, still wants nothing to do with her, so just gets blacked out at the party instead of kicking her out of his bed asap. I guess trying to wait her out and hoping she'd eventually give up. By the time he finally goes to bed, he's blacked out and she's been in there line 6-8 hours and completely sober. Next morning she teased him about how they had sex again but he kept falling asleep during it. If he was a chick, no one would argue that the second time was rape. Hell, we'd have probably fought a guy if he kept insisting he was going to "wait" in a drunk girls bed who was clear she didn't want anything to do with him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* Yes, it happens, and it can be very emotionally damaging for men too. One of the guys I was talking about was a virgin, and wanted to wait until he was married to have sex. He passed out in a bedroom at a party, and one of the women there stripped him naked, got him hard, and had sex with him. He was only vaguely conscious when this was happening. He had a very difficult time accepting that his years worth of discipline and sacrifice were stolen from him. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago But if he didn't want to have sex he had no business drinking! He should have known she wanted to bone down, and his drinking is an implicit yes! I'm being sarcastic, yes, but I only think to post this because while reading your comment, I had a bit of a knee jerk "he shouldn't do that" to him getting drunk again. This is part of why this rhetoric is damaging. People who CAN reason past those immediate reactions even start to get tripped up. I can't imagine being a teen and how confusing all of this mess must be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Infynis@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, the Seinfeld episode, he fed her enough to make her fall asleep so he could play with her collectable toys permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Seinfeld raped those toys because she ate turkey permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago BrandNewSentence permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (30 replies)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know two males who were raped by women when unconscious in college, and neither of them were okay with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children) People always picture a huge unattractive woman when this gets brought up. But one of my college roommates got raped by a girl who was at least "an 8". They had hooked when he was blackout and she was just tipsy. He wanted nothing to do with her tho, and told her that repeatedly. She was just hot, young, and had never been turned down before. So like a week later we have a party he's not at. She showed up early, had two beers, then went to "wait" in his bed. Even though everyone was telling her not to do that. When he shows up, still wants nothing to do with her, so just gets blacked out at the party instead of kicking her out of his bed asap. I guess trying to wait her out and hoping she'd eventually give up. By the time he finally goes to bed, he's blacked out and she's been in there line 6-8 hours and completely sober. Next morning she teased him about how they had sex again but he kept falling asleep during it. If he was a chick, no one would argue that the second time was rape. Hell, we'd have probably fought a guy if he kept insisting he was going to "wait" in a drunk girls bed who was clear she didn't want anything to do with him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* Yes, it happens, and it can be very emotionally damaging for men too. One of the guys I was talking about was a virgin, and wanted to wait until he was married to have sex. He passed out in a bedroom at a party, and one of the women there stripped him naked, got him hard, and had sex with him. He was only vaguely conscious when this was happening. He had a very difficult time accepting that his years worth of discipline and sacrifice were stolen from him. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago But if he didn't want to have sex he had no business drinking! He should have known she wanted to bone down, and his drinking is an implicit yes! I'm being sarcastic, yes, but I only think to post this because while reading your comment, I had a bit of a knee jerk "he shouldn't do that" to him getting drunk again. This is part of why this rhetoric is damaging. People who CAN reason past those immediate reactions even start to get tripped up. I can't imagine being a teen and how confusing all of this mess must be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children) People always picture a huge unattractive woman when this gets brought up. But one of my college roommates got raped by a girl who was at least "an 8". They had hooked when he was blackout and she was just tipsy. He wanted nothing to do with her tho, and told her that repeatedly. She was just hot, young, and had never been turned down before. So like a week later we have a party he's not at. She showed up early, had two beers, then went to "wait" in his bed. Even though everyone was telling her not to do that. When he shows up, still wants nothing to do with her, so just gets blacked out at the party instead of kicking her out of his bed asap. I guess trying to wait her out and hoping she'd eventually give up. By the time he finally goes to bed, he's blacked out and she's been in there line 6-8 hours and completely sober. Next morning she teased him about how they had sex again but he kept falling asleep during it. If he was a chick, no one would argue that the second time was rape. Hell, we'd have probably fought a guy if he kept insisting he was going to "wait" in a drunk girls bed who was clear she didn't want anything to do with him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* Yes, it happens, and it can be very emotionally damaging for men too. One of the guys I was talking about was a virgin, and wanted to wait until he was married to have sex. He passed out in a bedroom at a party, and one of the women there stripped him naked, got him hard, and had sex with him. He was only vaguely conscious when this was happening. He had a very difficult time accepting that his years worth of discipline and sacrifice were stolen from him. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago But if he didn't want to have sex he had no business drinking! He should have known she wanted to bone down, and his drinking is an implicit yes! I'm being sarcastic, yes, but I only think to post this because while reading your comment, I had a bit of a knee jerk "he shouldn't do that" to him getting drunk again. This is part of why this rhetoric is damaging. People who CAN reason past those immediate reactions even start to get tripped up. I can't imagine being a teen and how confusing all of this mess must be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* Yes, it happens, and it can be very emotionally damaging for men too. One of the guys I was talking about was a virgin, and wanted to wait until he was married to have sex. He passed out in a bedroom at a party, and one of the women there stripped him naked, got him hard, and had sex with him. He was only vaguely conscious when this was happening. He had a very difficult time accepting that his years worth of discipline and sacrifice were stolen from him. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago But if he didn't want to have sex he had no business drinking! He should have known she wanted to bone down, and his drinking is an implicit yes! I'm being sarcastic, yes, but I only think to post this because while reading your comment, I had a bit of a knee jerk "he shouldn't do that" to him getting drunk again. This is part of why this rhetoric is damaging. People who CAN reason past those immediate reactions even start to get tripped up. I can't imagine being a teen and how confusing all of this mess must be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Infynis@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, the Seinfeld episode, he fed her enough to make her fall asleep so he could play with her collectable toys permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Seinfeld raped those toys because she ate turkey permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago BrandNewSentence permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Seinfeld raped those toys because she ate turkey permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago BrandNewSentence permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago Yes this actually was a thing for many years. They actually made women into children and men the only responsible party. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be fair there aren't many restrictions on what can be on a poster permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago On my new poster "RagingRobot. Pedophile or Saint you choose. Detach below." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago On my new poster "RagingRobot. Pedophile or Saint you choose. Detach below." permalink fedilink source parent