▲ 395 ▼ [Video] Arkansas state trooper bodyslams black 18-year-old Alisa Hackett on the ground for speeding. (i.imgur.com) submitted 1 day ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world 98 comments fedilink hide all child comments alternative video upload
[+] not@lemmy.dbzer0.com -144 points 1 day ago (8 children) Why is it always so difficult to comply? Hands behind your back means hands behind your back. permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 33 points 21 hours ago Yeah, why wouldn't she just let the murderous psychopath that's protected by society if he decides to kill her do whatever he wants? /s The fuck is wrong with y'all? You expect the untrained individual in this circumstance to act with more decorum and reason than the trained one. Be better permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago Apparently this is fucking reddit now. You somehow simultaneously believe that a cop did not sign up for a dangerous job and also that not complying with a cop for 1.5 seconds is signing up for potential paralysis or death. Utter trash take/person. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoy@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 day ago (2 children) Why would you need to put your hands behind your back for a simple traffic stop? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] not@lemmy.dbzer0.com -98 points 1 day ago (7 children) Because you are flailing around with your arms and not listening because you want to call your mommy. Do you know how fast a person can pull out a blade and fatally stab you? I hate power tripping cops as much as you do, but we have to consider his safety. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 27 points 21 hours ago we have to consider his safety Adult male wearing body armor, a firearm, a taser, and OC spray with help a radio call away needs protection from the teenage girl he pulled over for speeding. Policing is more dangerous and lethal to the citizens than it is to the police officers. You are entitled to your opinion but the rest of us have an obligation to call it out when it’s bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 64 points 23 hours ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 56 points 23 hours ago I hate power tripping cops as much as you do, Doubt but we have to consider his safety. Oh shit. That’s a great point I hadn’t considered. He definitely looked like his life was hanging in the balance. Now I see why you were rooting for the underdog here… permalink fedilink source parent [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 48 points 23 hours ago* (1 child) Here's the problem... people, black people and minorities in particular, regularly get lied to, tricked, framed, abused, assaulted, beaten, shot, and/or murdered by cops. She's scared for her fucking life. She has zero reason to trust that cop and instinctively wants the protection of her parent. If you fear for your life do you act rationally? Should "power tripping" cops get a pass for instilling that kind of fear in the population they "protect and serve" and be able to ramp up the violence in response? I sincerely hope you are just trolling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 36 points 23 hours ago* And black people literally have fewer rights. The Supreme Court has ruled that in vaguely defined "high crime areas", cops can pretty much ignore much of the bill of rights. Guess what the interesection of "high crime area" and "where black people live" is? I remember a huge case in maybe the 1980s or 1990s where a black judge ruled that running from police was NOT probable cause because it makes perfect sense for black people to run from police. Total firestorm. People hated it. Well, now we are at the precipice of living in a fascist state, where justice, having been slowly eroded by custom and practice for decades, can finally be washed away entirely. When MLK, Jr. said an inustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere this is exactly what he was fucking talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 37 points 23 hours ago No the fuck we don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago We absolutely do not need to consider his safety. He is a big boy. He can do that all on his own. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Dashi@lemmy.world -36 points 23 hours ago (4 children) It would be a shame if someone did some research and found: "Arellano began placing Hackett under arrest. He said he saw alcohol in the car and learned another trooper had pulled her over days earlier and also found an open container." "Attorney Benjamin Crump is representing Hackett and calling for a use-of-force investigation. Crump said Hackett was booked at 12:51 a.m. on Aug. 2 in Mississippi County jail on five charges: improper display of tags, a restriction on vehicle lamps, no seat belt, purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor and refusal to submit to arrest." "On August 1, Trooper Arellano pulled Hackett over on the highway near Manila, reporting she was going 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone." Civil rights lawsuit filed against Arkansas state trooper after traffic stop altercation https://share.google/LUpZOt271jZUBfmnr Arkansas trooper threw teen down and punched her in the face during traffic stop, lawsuit says https://share.google/801x6PoTEu2bXvgnm So 100% cop may have been able to do this without a body slam.. but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* So... saw alcohol previous open container improper display of tags a restriction on vehicle lamps no seat belt purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor refusal to submit to arrest 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone So she's pulled over for driving 11 over on a highway... which is kind of normal... and may be in possession of alcohol (not open container, not DUI). He likely tossed every non-moving violation he could think of punitively because she dared to "resist" and didn't show the respect he expected. Sound like just consequences for driving while black in the USA. permalink fedilink source parent [–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 48 points 23 hours ago ...but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. I'm confused, are you saying it's okay because there's multiple alleged charges against her? I don't see how any of that is relevant to her being body slammed and punched in the face? permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago They pulled her over for 71 in a 60? This is a damn police state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago The defense should get away with the arrest being unlawful given what you said. I don't think anyone here thinks she's perfectly innocent, but if you see the video you already know she's being unlawfully assaulted by a jackass of a police officer. Even self destructive teens have rights, after all. They're generally victims of an already unjust society. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hardeehar@lemmy.world -81 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (8 children) It's another video taken out of context, we have no idea why, everyone just assumes the cop is excessive. Eventually we'll see the full video. Downvotes need to be more than this, I need to know how you really feel about it lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago Is there a justification for body slamming a person after they cry and hesitate for 1.5 seconds? If the answer is yes, you're a horrible person. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago Damn there's a whole mess of bootlickers in here today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 21 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) I have worked in a field where I routinely needed to restrain people larger than myself without hurting them. These people were unwell, sometimes violent, and often paranoid and aggressive. I never once fucking bodyslammed an adult patient or punched them. I had to restrain teenagers, many who looked a lot like this girl (who may not have been 100% compliant, but was definitely not "resisting" as I have been resisted by teenage patients). I never once fucking bodyslammed a small teenage girl or punched her. Nor did I fucking bodyslam and punch a 200+lb highschool football player with paranoid delusions and a penchant for punching nurses. Why not? Because there is absolutely zero need to do that, it's fucked up and mean, it could seriously hurt them, and it's illegal besides. When I was doing this type of work, I was much smaller than the pig in the video, and again restraining teenagers up to 300+lb adults. The lack of a need to do something forceful, and doing the forceful thing anyway despite not needing to is the definition of excessive force. Bodyslamming an unarmed, small, possibly inebriated teenage girl as a 200+lb man is excessive and fucked up. If you think this is OK, you need to take a step back and ask yourself why you think that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago ..what more information do you need beyond bodyslamming a skinny 18 year old girl and punching her while shes down? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago That cop must be a pathetic little bitch if he's THAT afraid of a little girl. Maybe we should put some strong confident people in those positions instead of frightened babies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago We aren’t assuming the cop is excessive. We are watching it on video. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago Agreed. How do we know that lady wasn’t trans or ANTIFA? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago Yeah - they lost the benefit of the doubt ages ago… permalink fedilink source parent [–] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 21 hours ago Idk if u can lick those boots any harder permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago Dude I'd be terrified he's going to fucking rape me in that circumstance - and I'm a man. Did you hear the kind of language he used? Did you even watch the video? permalink fedilink source parent [–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) What happened to no cruel and unusual punishments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago It got lost somewhere between qualified and absolute immunity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago Not all of us have your submission kink… permalink fedilink source parent [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 18 hours ago Children/teens who are afraid often do not take instructions well. I work at a children's hospital and can get kids with severe autism and fear of medical providers to behave and comply with treatment by being patient and empathetic. At no point would scaring them more or hurting them help the situation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 33 points 21 hours ago Yeah, why wouldn't she just let the murderous psychopath that's protected by society if he decides to kill her do whatever he wants? /s The fuck is wrong with y'all? You expect the untrained individual in this circumstance to act with more decorum and reason than the trained one. Be better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago Apparently this is fucking reddit now. You somehow simultaneously believe that a cop did not sign up for a dangerous job and also that not complying with a cop for 1.5 seconds is signing up for potential paralysis or death. Utter trash take/person. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 day ago (2 children) Why would you need to put your hands behind your back for a simple traffic stop? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] not@lemmy.dbzer0.com -98 points 1 day ago (7 children) Because you are flailing around with your arms and not listening because you want to call your mommy. Do you know how fast a person can pull out a blade and fatally stab you? I hate power tripping cops as much as you do, but we have to consider his safety. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 27 points 21 hours ago we have to consider his safety Adult male wearing body armor, a firearm, a taser, and OC spray with help a radio call away needs protection from the teenage girl he pulled over for speeding. Policing is more dangerous and lethal to the citizens than it is to the police officers. You are entitled to your opinion but the rest of us have an obligation to call it out when it’s bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 64 points 23 hours ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 56 points 23 hours ago I hate power tripping cops as much as you do, Doubt but we have to consider his safety. Oh shit. That’s a great point I hadn’t considered. He definitely looked like his life was hanging in the balance. Now I see why you were rooting for the underdog here… permalink fedilink source parent [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 48 points 23 hours ago* (1 child) Here's the problem... people, black people and minorities in particular, regularly get lied to, tricked, framed, abused, assaulted, beaten, shot, and/or murdered by cops. She's scared for her fucking life. She has zero reason to trust that cop and instinctively wants the protection of her parent. If you fear for your life do you act rationally? Should "power tripping" cops get a pass for instilling that kind of fear in the population they "protect and serve" and be able to ramp up the violence in response? I sincerely hope you are just trolling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 36 points 23 hours ago* And black people literally have fewer rights. The Supreme Court has ruled that in vaguely defined "high crime areas", cops can pretty much ignore much of the bill of rights. Guess what the interesection of "high crime area" and "where black people live" is? I remember a huge case in maybe the 1980s or 1990s where a black judge ruled that running from police was NOT probable cause because it makes perfect sense for black people to run from police. Total firestorm. People hated it. Well, now we are at the precipice of living in a fascist state, where justice, having been slowly eroded by custom and practice for decades, can finally be washed away entirely. When MLK, Jr. said an inustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere this is exactly what he was fucking talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 37 points 23 hours ago No the fuck we don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago We absolutely do not need to consider his safety. He is a big boy. He can do that all on his own. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Dashi@lemmy.world -36 points 23 hours ago (4 children) It would be a shame if someone did some research and found: "Arellano began placing Hackett under arrest. He said he saw alcohol in the car and learned another trooper had pulled her over days earlier and also found an open container." "Attorney Benjamin Crump is representing Hackett and calling for a use-of-force investigation. Crump said Hackett was booked at 12:51 a.m. on Aug. 2 in Mississippi County jail on five charges: improper display of tags, a restriction on vehicle lamps, no seat belt, purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor and refusal to submit to arrest." "On August 1, Trooper Arellano pulled Hackett over on the highway near Manila, reporting she was going 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone." Civil rights lawsuit filed against Arkansas state trooper after traffic stop altercation https://share.google/LUpZOt271jZUBfmnr Arkansas trooper threw teen down and punched her in the face during traffic stop, lawsuit says https://share.google/801x6PoTEu2bXvgnm So 100% cop may have been able to do this without a body slam.. but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* So... saw alcohol previous open container improper display of tags a restriction on vehicle lamps no seat belt purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor refusal to submit to arrest 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone So she's pulled over for driving 11 over on a highway... which is kind of normal... and may be in possession of alcohol (not open container, not DUI). He likely tossed every non-moving violation he could think of punitively because she dared to "resist" and didn't show the respect he expected. Sound like just consequences for driving while black in the USA. permalink fedilink source parent [–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 48 points 23 hours ago ...but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. I'm confused, are you saying it's okay because there's multiple alleged charges against her? I don't see how any of that is relevant to her being body slammed and punched in the face? permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago They pulled her over for 71 in a 60? This is a damn police state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago The defense should get away with the arrest being unlawful given what you said. I don't think anyone here thinks she's perfectly innocent, but if you see the video you already know she's being unlawfully assaulted by a jackass of a police officer. Even self destructive teens have rights, after all. They're generally victims of an already unjust society. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hardeehar@lemmy.world -81 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (8 children) It's another video taken out of context, we have no idea why, everyone just assumes the cop is excessive. Eventually we'll see the full video. Downvotes need to be more than this, I need to know how you really feel about it lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago Is there a justification for body slamming a person after they cry and hesitate for 1.5 seconds? If the answer is yes, you're a horrible person. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago Damn there's a whole mess of bootlickers in here today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 21 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) I have worked in a field where I routinely needed to restrain people larger than myself without hurting them. These people were unwell, sometimes violent, and often paranoid and aggressive. I never once fucking bodyslammed an adult patient or punched them. I had to restrain teenagers, many who looked a lot like this girl (who may not have been 100% compliant, but was definitely not "resisting" as I have been resisted by teenage patients). I never once fucking bodyslammed a small teenage girl or punched her. Nor did I fucking bodyslam and punch a 200+lb highschool football player with paranoid delusions and a penchant for punching nurses. Why not? Because there is absolutely zero need to do that, it's fucked up and mean, it could seriously hurt them, and it's illegal besides. When I was doing this type of work, I was much smaller than the pig in the video, and again restraining teenagers up to 300+lb adults. The lack of a need to do something forceful, and doing the forceful thing anyway despite not needing to is the definition of excessive force. Bodyslamming an unarmed, small, possibly inebriated teenage girl as a 200+lb man is excessive and fucked up. If you think this is OK, you need to take a step back and ask yourself why you think that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago ..what more information do you need beyond bodyslamming a skinny 18 year old girl and punching her while shes down? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago That cop must be a pathetic little bitch if he's THAT afraid of a little girl. Maybe we should put some strong confident people in those positions instead of frightened babies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago We aren’t assuming the cop is excessive. We are watching it on video. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago Agreed. How do we know that lady wasn’t trans or ANTIFA? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago Yeah - they lost the benefit of the doubt ages ago… permalink fedilink source parent
[+] not@lemmy.dbzer0.com -98 points 1 day ago (7 children) Because you are flailing around with your arms and not listening because you want to call your mommy. Do you know how fast a person can pull out a blade and fatally stab you? I hate power tripping cops as much as you do, but we have to consider his safety. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 27 points 21 hours ago we have to consider his safety Adult male wearing body armor, a firearm, a taser, and OC spray with help a radio call away needs protection from the teenage girl he pulled over for speeding. Policing is more dangerous and lethal to the citizens than it is to the police officers. You are entitled to your opinion but the rest of us have an obligation to call it out when it’s bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 64 points 23 hours ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 56 points 23 hours ago I hate power tripping cops as much as you do, Doubt but we have to consider his safety. Oh shit. That’s a great point I hadn’t considered. He definitely looked like his life was hanging in the balance. Now I see why you were rooting for the underdog here… permalink fedilink source parent [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 48 points 23 hours ago* (1 child) Here's the problem... people, black people and minorities in particular, regularly get lied to, tricked, framed, abused, assaulted, beaten, shot, and/or murdered by cops. She's scared for her fucking life. She has zero reason to trust that cop and instinctively wants the protection of her parent. If you fear for your life do you act rationally? Should "power tripping" cops get a pass for instilling that kind of fear in the population they "protect and serve" and be able to ramp up the violence in response? I sincerely hope you are just trolling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 36 points 23 hours ago* And black people literally have fewer rights. The Supreme Court has ruled that in vaguely defined "high crime areas", cops can pretty much ignore much of the bill of rights. Guess what the interesection of "high crime area" and "where black people live" is? I remember a huge case in maybe the 1980s or 1990s where a black judge ruled that running from police was NOT probable cause because it makes perfect sense for black people to run from police. Total firestorm. People hated it. Well, now we are at the precipice of living in a fascist state, where justice, having been slowly eroded by custom and practice for decades, can finally be washed away entirely. When MLK, Jr. said an inustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere this is exactly what he was fucking talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 37 points 23 hours ago No the fuck we don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago We absolutely do not need to consider his safety. He is a big boy. He can do that all on his own. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Dashi@lemmy.world -36 points 23 hours ago (4 children) It would be a shame if someone did some research and found: "Arellano began placing Hackett under arrest. He said he saw alcohol in the car and learned another trooper had pulled her over days earlier and also found an open container." "Attorney Benjamin Crump is representing Hackett and calling for a use-of-force investigation. Crump said Hackett was booked at 12:51 a.m. on Aug. 2 in Mississippi County jail on five charges: improper display of tags, a restriction on vehicle lamps, no seat belt, purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor and refusal to submit to arrest." "On August 1, Trooper Arellano pulled Hackett over on the highway near Manila, reporting she was going 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone." Civil rights lawsuit filed against Arkansas state trooper after traffic stop altercation https://share.google/LUpZOt271jZUBfmnr Arkansas trooper threw teen down and punched her in the face during traffic stop, lawsuit says https://share.google/801x6PoTEu2bXvgnm So 100% cop may have been able to do this without a body slam.. but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* So... saw alcohol previous open container improper display of tags a restriction on vehicle lamps no seat belt purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor refusal to submit to arrest 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone So she's pulled over for driving 11 over on a highway... which is kind of normal... and may be in possession of alcohol (not open container, not DUI). He likely tossed every non-moving violation he could think of punitively because she dared to "resist" and didn't show the respect he expected. Sound like just consequences for driving while black in the USA. permalink fedilink source parent [–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 48 points 23 hours ago ...but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. I'm confused, are you saying it's okay because there's multiple alleged charges against her? I don't see how any of that is relevant to her being body slammed and punched in the face? permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago They pulled her over for 71 in a 60? This is a damn police state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago The defense should get away with the arrest being unlawful given what you said. I don't think anyone here thinks she's perfectly innocent, but if you see the video you already know she's being unlawfully assaulted by a jackass of a police officer. Even self destructive teens have rights, after all. They're generally victims of an already unjust society. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 27 points 21 hours ago we have to consider his safety Adult male wearing body armor, a firearm, a taser, and OC spray with help a radio call away needs protection from the teenage girl he pulled over for speeding. Policing is more dangerous and lethal to the citizens than it is to the police officers. You are entitled to your opinion but the rest of us have an obligation to call it out when it’s bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 56 points 23 hours ago I hate power tripping cops as much as you do, Doubt but we have to consider his safety. Oh shit. That’s a great point I hadn’t considered. He definitely looked like his life was hanging in the balance. Now I see why you were rooting for the underdog here… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 48 points 23 hours ago* (1 child) Here's the problem... people, black people and minorities in particular, regularly get lied to, tricked, framed, abused, assaulted, beaten, shot, and/or murdered by cops. She's scared for her fucking life. She has zero reason to trust that cop and instinctively wants the protection of her parent. If you fear for your life do you act rationally? Should "power tripping" cops get a pass for instilling that kind of fear in the population they "protect and serve" and be able to ramp up the violence in response? I sincerely hope you are just trolling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 36 points 23 hours ago* And black people literally have fewer rights. The Supreme Court has ruled that in vaguely defined "high crime areas", cops can pretty much ignore much of the bill of rights. Guess what the interesection of "high crime area" and "where black people live" is? I remember a huge case in maybe the 1980s or 1990s where a black judge ruled that running from police was NOT probable cause because it makes perfect sense for black people to run from police. Total firestorm. People hated it. Well, now we are at the precipice of living in a fascist state, where justice, having been slowly eroded by custom and practice for decades, can finally be washed away entirely. When MLK, Jr. said an inustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere this is exactly what he was fucking talking about. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 36 points 23 hours ago* And black people literally have fewer rights. The Supreme Court has ruled that in vaguely defined "high crime areas", cops can pretty much ignore much of the bill of rights. Guess what the interesection of "high crime area" and "where black people live" is? I remember a huge case in maybe the 1980s or 1990s where a black judge ruled that running from police was NOT probable cause because it makes perfect sense for black people to run from police. Total firestorm. People hated it. Well, now we are at the precipice of living in a fascist state, where justice, having been slowly eroded by custom and practice for decades, can finally be washed away entirely. When MLK, Jr. said an inustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere this is exactly what he was fucking talking about. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 37 points 23 hours ago No the fuck we don’t. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago We absolutely do not need to consider his safety. He is a big boy. He can do that all on his own. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Dashi@lemmy.world -36 points 23 hours ago (4 children) It would be a shame if someone did some research and found: "Arellano began placing Hackett under arrest. He said he saw alcohol in the car and learned another trooper had pulled her over days earlier and also found an open container." "Attorney Benjamin Crump is representing Hackett and calling for a use-of-force investigation. Crump said Hackett was booked at 12:51 a.m. on Aug. 2 in Mississippi County jail on five charges: improper display of tags, a restriction on vehicle lamps, no seat belt, purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor and refusal to submit to arrest." "On August 1, Trooper Arellano pulled Hackett over on the highway near Manila, reporting she was going 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone." Civil rights lawsuit filed against Arkansas state trooper after traffic stop altercation https://share.google/LUpZOt271jZUBfmnr Arkansas trooper threw teen down and punched her in the face during traffic stop, lawsuit says https://share.google/801x6PoTEu2bXvgnm So 100% cop may have been able to do this without a body slam.. but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* So... saw alcohol previous open container improper display of tags a restriction on vehicle lamps no seat belt purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor refusal to submit to arrest 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone So she's pulled over for driving 11 over on a highway... which is kind of normal... and may be in possession of alcohol (not open container, not DUI). He likely tossed every non-moving violation he could think of punitively because she dared to "resist" and didn't show the respect he expected. Sound like just consequences for driving while black in the USA. permalink fedilink source parent [–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 48 points 23 hours ago ...but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. I'm confused, are you saying it's okay because there's multiple alleged charges against her? I don't see how any of that is relevant to her being body slammed and punched in the face? permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago They pulled her over for 71 in a 60? This is a damn police state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago The defense should get away with the arrest being unlawful given what you said. I don't think anyone here thinks she's perfectly innocent, but if you see the video you already know she's being unlawfully assaulted by a jackass of a police officer. Even self destructive teens have rights, after all. They're generally victims of an already unjust society. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* So... saw alcohol previous open container improper display of tags a restriction on vehicle lamps no seat belt purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor refusal to submit to arrest 71 in a 60-mile-per-hour zone So she's pulled over for driving 11 over on a highway... which is kind of normal... and may be in possession of alcohol (not open container, not DUI). He likely tossed every non-moving violation he could think of punitively because she dared to "resist" and didn't show the respect he expected. Sound like just consequences for driving while black in the USA. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 48 points 23 hours ago ...but it's not like she rolled a stop sign and got body slammed for it. I'm confused, are you saying it's okay because there's multiple alleged charges against her? I don't see how any of that is relevant to her being body slammed and punched in the face? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago They pulled her over for 71 in a 60? This is a damn police state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago The defense should get away with the arrest being unlawful given what you said. I don't think anyone here thinks she's perfectly innocent, but if you see the video you already know she's being unlawfully assaulted by a jackass of a police officer. Even self destructive teens have rights, after all. They're generally victims of an already unjust society. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hardeehar@lemmy.world -81 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (8 children) It's another video taken out of context, we have no idea why, everyone just assumes the cop is excessive. Eventually we'll see the full video. Downvotes need to be more than this, I need to know how you really feel about it lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago Is there a justification for body slamming a person after they cry and hesitate for 1.5 seconds? If the answer is yes, you're a horrible person. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago Damn there's a whole mess of bootlickers in here today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 21 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) I have worked in a field where I routinely needed to restrain people larger than myself without hurting them. These people were unwell, sometimes violent, and often paranoid and aggressive. I never once fucking bodyslammed an adult patient or punched them. I had to restrain teenagers, many who looked a lot like this girl (who may not have been 100% compliant, but was definitely not "resisting" as I have been resisted by teenage patients). I never once fucking bodyslammed a small teenage girl or punched her. Nor did I fucking bodyslam and punch a 200+lb highschool football player with paranoid delusions and a penchant for punching nurses. Why not? Because there is absolutely zero need to do that, it's fucked up and mean, it could seriously hurt them, and it's illegal besides. When I was doing this type of work, I was much smaller than the pig in the video, and again restraining teenagers up to 300+lb adults. The lack of a need to do something forceful, and doing the forceful thing anyway despite not needing to is the definition of excessive force. Bodyslamming an unarmed, small, possibly inebriated teenage girl as a 200+lb man is excessive and fucked up. If you think this is OK, you need to take a step back and ask yourself why you think that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago ..what more information do you need beyond bodyslamming a skinny 18 year old girl and punching her while shes down? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago That cop must be a pathetic little bitch if he's THAT afraid of a little girl. Maybe we should put some strong confident people in those positions instead of frightened babies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago We aren’t assuming the cop is excessive. We are watching it on video. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago Agreed. How do we know that lady wasn’t trans or ANTIFA? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago Yeah - they lost the benefit of the doubt ages ago… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago Is there a justification for body slamming a person after they cry and hesitate for 1.5 seconds? If the answer is yes, you're a horrible person. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago Damn there's a whole mess of bootlickers in here today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 21 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) I have worked in a field where I routinely needed to restrain people larger than myself without hurting them. These people were unwell, sometimes violent, and often paranoid and aggressive. I never once fucking bodyslammed an adult patient or punched them. I had to restrain teenagers, many who looked a lot like this girl (who may not have been 100% compliant, but was definitely not "resisting" as I have been resisted by teenage patients). I never once fucking bodyslammed a small teenage girl or punched her. Nor did I fucking bodyslam and punch a 200+lb highschool football player with paranoid delusions and a penchant for punching nurses. Why not? Because there is absolutely zero need to do that, it's fucked up and mean, it could seriously hurt them, and it's illegal besides. When I was doing this type of work, I was much smaller than the pig in the video, and again restraining teenagers up to 300+lb adults. The lack of a need to do something forceful, and doing the forceful thing anyway despite not needing to is the definition of excessive force. Bodyslamming an unarmed, small, possibly inebriated teenage girl as a 200+lb man is excessive and fucked up. If you think this is OK, you need to take a step back and ask yourself why you think that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago ..what more information do you need beyond bodyslamming a skinny 18 year old girl and punching her while shes down? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago That cop must be a pathetic little bitch if he's THAT afraid of a little girl. Maybe we should put some strong confident people in those positions instead of frightened babies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago We aren’t assuming the cop is excessive. We are watching it on video. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago Agreed. How do we know that lady wasn’t trans or ANTIFA? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago Yeah - they lost the benefit of the doubt ages ago… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 21 hours ago Idk if u can lick those boots any harder permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago Dude I'd be terrified he's going to fucking rape me in that circumstance - and I'm a man. Did you hear the kind of language he used? Did you even watch the video? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) What happened to no cruel and unusual punishments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago It got lost somewhere between qualified and absolute immunity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago It got lost somewhere between qualified and absolute immunity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago Not all of us have your submission kink… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 18 hours ago Children/teens who are afraid often do not take instructions well. I work at a children's hospital and can get kids with severe autism and fear of medical providers to behave and comply with treatment by being patient and empathetic. At no point would scaring them more or hurting them help the situation. permalink fedilink source parent