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[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 111 points 1 day ago (7 children) I never understood how they are so popular. You are paying double the amount and it's poor service and food tastes worse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago* (2 children) The fact that you have a stranger go and pick up your food is what makes it unthinkable to me. (Although if disabled or injured then I understand) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago HARRY! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 child) I'm not one to defend DD here, I stopped using them years ago. But strangers are preparing your food too. The driver is just one additional set of hands in the supply chain that brought food to your home. DD still sucks, for the record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago This is true but those people are at least on camera and surrounded by other people holding them accountable. Don't get me wrong I've seen some wild wild shit before at restaurants so of course they can still do messed up stuff to the food but having some guy pick it up and ride off with no accountability is super sketchy to me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 point 12 hours ago (1 child) If you're having a house party and everyone is drinking and you don't want to cook, it's handy, but 90% of the time, the premium is not worth it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child) Pizza delivery is generally cheaper and more reliable, assuming the pizza place has its own drivers. Cheaper because the delivery service is intended to extend the restaurant's sales, rather than needing to extract enough value to pay both a driver and the middleman app. More reliable because the driver isn't just some anonymous person that decided to download an app but a driver that has an ongoing relationship with the pizza place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago Sure. Good luck finding anywhere that still does that though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (6 children) Because if your car has broken down, or you're exhausted from a long day of work and your family is hungry, or you're too drunk to safely drive but still want food, or if you straight up don't have a car and don't want to cook that night, or you are on vacation at a hotel or airbnb and don't have other access to food, or you have a baby that you can't just leave alone for a few minutes to go pick the food up, or you are in the middle of a study session and it would be more convenient to have the food come to you rather than going to get it. Looks like there's lots of reasons people might take advantage of the service that can deliver food to them, and it's not unreasonable for them to expect that service to not completely fuck it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 child) Those are all valid individual reasons to get food delivered to you. That's not what makes DoorDash "popular" tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago Yeah, tbh I’ve only seen “I don’t feel like driving, let’s DoorDash” in personal experience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 17 points 23 hours ago (1 child) My main income has been from driving for grubhub for a couple of years now thanks to some physical issues. Anyway, most of the people I deliver to are disabled, elderly, or both. I would feel like shit if I pulled the fuckery presented in the OP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 5 points 13 hours ago* (1 child) Yeah seriously I started doing Doordash recently to try and get on top of my finances and I'd feel awful about the stuff here And to be honest They're fucking everyone over, the Dashers make basically minimum wage if that, Doordash marks up all the items on the menus, and adds a bunch of bullshit fees. The only money reliably making it from the customers to the dashers are the tips, and only because they're required to by law. But for my case, it's something flexible and relatively low-effort that I can do when I'm not working my day job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 4 points 8 hours ago The trick here is to wait out the 7+ month waiting list for GrubHub. My stomach churns at the fact that I'm about to be a corpo shill, but I make an average of ~$27/hr (and yes for all of you that are about to jump on this, that is after taxes, maintenance, and time spent searching). The only thing I have to do to earn is turn things on like a cab. I earn about $10/hr above what is the average here and that's the only reason I'm not sleeping in my car. And, also - this applies to all of the delivery apps, but you sadly need to find a heavily gentrified area to do this. To pay the bills this way, you have to find and exploit the petite bourgeoisie. I make fucking good money doing this bullshit, even more than I did in my 20+ year career as a machinist. What fucking sucks about it is that you have to toe the red line, no matter where you are. If you are willing to drive to the suburbs with unnecessarily large houses, you will make money. I fucking hate this, but in the end by doing this kind of work you are in a way preying on the disabled and infirm, but they have no other choice so you are in a way helping. On the other hand, there's a good chance that you are draining class traitors of their capital. I don't know what to say beyond this other than what people say about "underpaid labor!" is, in fact, entirely dependent on area, and there are high odds that the people saying that it is impossible to make enough to live doing any sort of labor that nets you less than $100,000/yr. I want to go on a rant about how "office job labor"-centric mentality is way more prevalent than anything US-centric, but I digress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shweddy@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago Inconvenience of getting your own food is less than over paying for shit service. And you deserve it if you dont realize they dont give a fuck about you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 point 19 hours ago (1 child) This is why living in a city is awesome. Just walk 6 blocks and get a bite to eat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago Did you read a fucking word they said? About being exhausted, or having to look after kids, or having housework to do... You're still gonna find time for 45+ minutes to walk 6 blocks, wait in line, pay, and walk back and still have all the shit you need to do and still eat before it gets cold? Christ sake... "Just walk 6 blocks". Tell a single mom that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago Enshittification. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -10 points 1 day ago (2 children) So basically laziness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children) Yea dude. Not wanting to drive after drinking is just laziness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago Consuming a drug without a plan of how the next few hours are going to go is incredibly stupid and lazy, yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 child) Getting drunk without food prepared ahead of time is laziness. People safely fed themselves for centuries before delivery apps existed, they can do it now too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 point 23 hours ago* Yes, and for centuries, leaving your house while drunk to go get food was a viable option because walking or riding a horse while drunk is a lot safer than driving a car. Then we got cars, and the roads became dangerous. And yes, there was a brief period where there were no delivery services from restaurants. But very quickly, restaurants realized they could get more sales if they offered to deliver food to people for reasons like the many I listed above. So to be clear, are you pining for that brief period of time a handful of decades long, between the time of cars being widely adopted and restaurants offering delivery and using that as an example for something you believe everyone should return to? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sel@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) Yeah bro. Before all these slop delivery apps how did anyone ever survive. Do better. For fucks sake. Such a lazy excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* They ordered pizza or Chinese or some local store that had their own delivery drivers. That doesn't exist anymore. Stores outsource their deliveries to companies like door dash. Oh sorry, was this supposed to be some dumbass "gotcha" that completely ignores reality? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago People produced less, the economy was better, the climate wasn’t at this point in the collapse. People are so unreasonable for wanting to pay for convenience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children) Completely impossible to get food ahead of time. Just no way to have a pizza in your freezer in case you get hungry after a night out drinking. I just spontaneously get drunk sometimes so it comes out of nowhere and I'm not able to plan ahead. I need DoorDash or I would literally starve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago The freezer pizza is nowhere near as good as a fresh pizza from a decent pizzeria though? You'd have to cook your own pizza for it to even be comparable. Like yes I always have something I can heat up at 3 AM if I'm working an all nighter to catch up on shit, but you know what tastes best when drunk? Hot fast food I didn't have to prepare at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 point 17 hours ago Your comment literally screams "No one ever visits me and nothing I do is for enjoyment" permalink fedilink source parent [–] sel@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago I mean literally. We all had to get food before these apps came in. I don’t understand the why we can’t now besides being pure fucking lazy and not willing to do anything to change the status quo instead just bitching about it online acting like there is nothing left to do. It’s so fucking maddening. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago I share your perspective and reading these comments made me realize we have different paths of lease resistance. For some who have gotten used to them, it’s easier to put up with the enshitification than not using them, for others, the path of least resistance is to not use them in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 child) Because I’m already high and forgot I don’t have any food in the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago* (2 children) Go hungry? Phone a friend? Ask the neighbor? Not give a tech bro $50 to deliver a depression by exploiting your community. What do you think we've done for checks notes the last 100,000 years that we have been getting high? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (1 child) Well for most of that history people lived in walkable settlements and cities. Pompeii had fast food stalls. And more recently (relatively) food ordering direct through a restaurant was the norm. Pizza delivery dates back to the 19th century, which is checks notes more than 100 years ago. So yeah, access to food has changed a lot and it is nor unreasonable to expect your delivery driver not to toss your food into the street. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rooster326@programming.dev 0 points 15 hours ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] danekrae@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago "No! I want to complain AND be lazy!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago I was getting g a burger the other day (something I’m loathe to do but it was circumstances…) and as I’m waiting several dasher came in and grabbed orders waiting. I’m a people watcher so I sit where I can watch people come and go while I wait for my order and can still hear my name. Now, it was storming outside, I mean it was nuts. One of those dashers came in grabbed the bag of food and used it as a rain block to get back to their car. Just held it over their head like it was making any difference at all. Whoever got those soggy fries I hope they don’t go through the hassle again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (2 children) You are paying double the amount You answered your own question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) How would paying more cause it to be popular? I can get you Lemmy+ if you want! It has the exact same experience, but you get to pay me 10€ a month for the privilege. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 child) Tell me more about Lemmy+. Do I get some sort of visual indicator so other people can tell I’m paying you 10€ per month? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ignominous_wombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* No, but if you separately pay me $15/month, I'll post in a different community every day about how you're paying them €10/month. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago Except it's not Lemmy+. It's just what the standard experience is, and most people seem to tolerate it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 child) How does paying double make it popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago The answer is that it's not popular but it's not enough for people to stop using the service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago* (2 children) The fact that you have a stranger go and pick up your food is what makes it unthinkable to me. (Although if disabled or injured then I understand) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago HARRY! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 child) I'm not one to defend DD here, I stopped using them years ago. But strangers are preparing your food too. The driver is just one additional set of hands in the supply chain that brought food to your home. DD still sucks, for the record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago This is true but those people are at least on camera and surrounded by other people holding them accountable. Don't get me wrong I've seen some wild wild shit before at restaurants so of course they can still do messed up stuff to the food but having some guy pick it up and ride off with no accountability is super sketchy to me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 child) I'm not one to defend DD here, I stopped using them years ago. But strangers are preparing your food too. The driver is just one additional set of hands in the supply chain that brought food to your home. DD still sucks, for the record. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago This is true but those people are at least on camera and surrounded by other people holding them accountable. Don't get me wrong I've seen some wild wild shit before at restaurants so of course they can still do messed up stuff to the food but having some guy pick it up and ride off with no accountability is super sketchy to me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago This is true but those people are at least on camera and surrounded by other people holding them accountable. Don't get me wrong I've seen some wild wild shit before at restaurants so of course they can still do messed up stuff to the food but having some guy pick it up and ride off with no accountability is super sketchy to me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 point 12 hours ago (1 child) If you're having a house party and everyone is drinking and you don't want to cook, it's handy, but 90% of the time, the premium is not worth it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child) Pizza delivery is generally cheaper and more reliable, assuming the pizza place has its own drivers. Cheaper because the delivery service is intended to extend the restaurant's sales, rather than needing to extract enough value to pay both a driver and the middleman app. More reliable because the driver isn't just some anonymous person that decided to download an app but a driver that has an ongoing relationship with the pizza place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago Sure. Good luck finding anywhere that still does that though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child) Pizza delivery is generally cheaper and more reliable, assuming the pizza place has its own drivers. Cheaper because the delivery service is intended to extend the restaurant's sales, rather than needing to extract enough value to pay both a driver and the middleman app. More reliable because the driver isn't just some anonymous person that decided to download an app but a driver that has an ongoing relationship with the pizza place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago Sure. Good luck finding anywhere that still does that though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago Sure. Good luck finding anywhere that still does that though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (6 children) Because if your car has broken down, or you're exhausted from a long day of work and your family is hungry, or you're too drunk to safely drive but still want food, or if you straight up don't have a car and don't want to cook that night, or you are on vacation at a hotel or airbnb and don't have other access to food, or you have a baby that you can't just leave alone for a few minutes to go pick the food up, or you are in the middle of a study session and it would be more convenient to have the food come to you rather than going to get it. Looks like there's lots of reasons people might take advantage of the service that can deliver food to them, and it's not unreasonable for them to expect that service to not completely fuck it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 child) Those are all valid individual reasons to get food delivered to you. That's not what makes DoorDash "popular" tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago Yeah, tbh I’ve only seen “I don’t feel like driving, let’s DoorDash” in personal experience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 17 points 23 hours ago (1 child) My main income has been from driving for grubhub for a couple of years now thanks to some physical issues. Anyway, most of the people I deliver to are disabled, elderly, or both. I would feel like shit if I pulled the fuckery presented in the OP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 5 points 13 hours ago* (1 child) Yeah seriously I started doing Doordash recently to try and get on top of my finances and I'd feel awful about the stuff here And to be honest They're fucking everyone over, the Dashers make basically minimum wage if that, Doordash marks up all the items on the menus, and adds a bunch of bullshit fees. The only money reliably making it from the customers to the dashers are the tips, and only because they're required to by law. But for my case, it's something flexible and relatively low-effort that I can do when I'm not working my day job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 4 points 8 hours ago The trick here is to wait out the 7+ month waiting list for GrubHub. My stomach churns at the fact that I'm about to be a corpo shill, but I make an average of ~$27/hr (and yes for all of you that are about to jump on this, that is after taxes, maintenance, and time spent searching). The only thing I have to do to earn is turn things on like a cab. I earn about $10/hr above what is the average here and that's the only reason I'm not sleeping in my car. And, also - this applies to all of the delivery apps, but you sadly need to find a heavily gentrified area to do this. To pay the bills this way, you have to find and exploit the petite bourgeoisie. I make fucking good money doing this bullshit, even more than I did in my 20+ year career as a machinist. What fucking sucks about it is that you have to toe the red line, no matter where you are. If you are willing to drive to the suburbs with unnecessarily large houses, you will make money. I fucking hate this, but in the end by doing this kind of work you are in a way preying on the disabled and infirm, but they have no other choice so you are in a way helping. On the other hand, there's a good chance that you are draining class traitors of their capital. I don't know what to say beyond this other than what people say about "underpaid labor!" is, in fact, entirely dependent on area, and there are high odds that the people saying that it is impossible to make enough to live doing any sort of labor that nets you less than $100,000/yr. I want to go on a rant about how "office job labor"-centric mentality is way more prevalent than anything US-centric, but I digress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shweddy@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago Inconvenience of getting your own food is less than over paying for shit service. And you deserve it if you dont realize they dont give a fuck about you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 point 19 hours ago (1 child) This is why living in a city is awesome. Just walk 6 blocks and get a bite to eat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago Did you read a fucking word they said? About being exhausted, or having to look after kids, or having housework to do... You're still gonna find time for 45+ minutes to walk 6 blocks, wait in line, pay, and walk back and still have all the shit you need to do and still eat before it gets cold? Christ sake... "Just walk 6 blocks". Tell a single mom that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago Enshittification. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -10 points 1 day ago (2 children) So basically laziness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children) Yea dude. Not wanting to drive after drinking is just laziness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago Consuming a drug without a plan of how the next few hours are going to go is incredibly stupid and lazy, yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 child) Getting drunk without food prepared ahead of time is laziness. People safely fed themselves for centuries before delivery apps existed, they can do it now too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 point 23 hours ago* Yes, and for centuries, leaving your house while drunk to go get food was a viable option because walking or riding a horse while drunk is a lot safer than driving a car. Then we got cars, and the roads became dangerous. And yes, there was a brief period where there were no delivery services from restaurants. But very quickly, restaurants realized they could get more sales if they offered to deliver food to people for reasons like the many I listed above. So to be clear, are you pining for that brief period of time a handful of decades long, between the time of cars being widely adopted and restaurants offering delivery and using that as an example for something you believe everyone should return to? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sel@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) Yeah bro. Before all these slop delivery apps how did anyone ever survive. Do better. For fucks sake. Such a lazy excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* They ordered pizza or Chinese or some local store that had their own delivery drivers. That doesn't exist anymore. Stores outsource their deliveries to companies like door dash. Oh sorry, was this supposed to be some dumbass "gotcha" that completely ignores reality? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago People produced less, the economy was better, the climate wasn’t at this point in the collapse. People are so unreasonable for wanting to pay for convenience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children) Completely impossible to get food ahead of time. Just no way to have a pizza in your freezer in case you get hungry after a night out drinking. I just spontaneously get drunk sometimes so it comes out of nowhere and I'm not able to plan ahead. I need DoorDash or I would literally starve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago The freezer pizza is nowhere near as good as a fresh pizza from a decent pizzeria though? You'd have to cook your own pizza for it to even be comparable. Like yes I always have something I can heat up at 3 AM if I'm working an all nighter to catch up on shit, but you know what tastes best when drunk? Hot fast food I didn't have to prepare at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 point 17 hours ago Your comment literally screams "No one ever visits me and nothing I do is for enjoyment" permalink fedilink source parent [–] sel@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago I mean literally. We all had to get food before these apps came in. I don’t understand the why we can’t now besides being pure fucking lazy and not willing to do anything to change the status quo instead just bitching about it online acting like there is nothing left to do. It’s so fucking maddening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 child) Those are all valid individual reasons to get food delivered to you. That's not what makes DoorDash "popular" tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago Yeah, tbh I’ve only seen “I don’t feel like driving, let’s DoorDash” in personal experience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago Yeah, tbh I’ve only seen “I don’t feel like driving, let’s DoorDash” in personal experience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 17 points 23 hours ago (1 child) My main income has been from driving for grubhub for a couple of years now thanks to some physical issues. Anyway, most of the people I deliver to are disabled, elderly, or both. I would feel like shit if I pulled the fuckery presented in the OP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 5 points 13 hours ago* (1 child) Yeah seriously I started doing Doordash recently to try and get on top of my finances and I'd feel awful about the stuff here And to be honest They're fucking everyone over, the Dashers make basically minimum wage if that, Doordash marks up all the items on the menus, and adds a bunch of bullshit fees. The only money reliably making it from the customers to the dashers are the tips, and only because they're required to by law. But for my case, it's something flexible and relatively low-effort that I can do when I'm not working my day job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 4 points 8 hours ago The trick here is to wait out the 7+ month waiting list for GrubHub. My stomach churns at the fact that I'm about to be a corpo shill, but I make an average of ~$27/hr (and yes for all of you that are about to jump on this, that is after taxes, maintenance, and time spent searching). The only thing I have to do to earn is turn things on like a cab. I earn about $10/hr above what is the average here and that's the only reason I'm not sleeping in my car. And, also - this applies to all of the delivery apps, but you sadly need to find a heavily gentrified area to do this. To pay the bills this way, you have to find and exploit the petite bourgeoisie. I make fucking good money doing this bullshit, even more than I did in my 20+ year career as a machinist. What fucking sucks about it is that you have to toe the red line, no matter where you are. If you are willing to drive to the suburbs with unnecessarily large houses, you will make money. I fucking hate this, but in the end by doing this kind of work you are in a way preying on the disabled and infirm, but they have no other choice so you are in a way helping. On the other hand, there's a good chance that you are draining class traitors of their capital. I don't know what to say beyond this other than what people say about "underpaid labor!" is, in fact, entirely dependent on area, and there are high odds that the people saying that it is impossible to make enough to live doing any sort of labor that nets you less than $100,000/yr. I want to go on a rant about how "office job labor"-centric mentality is way more prevalent than anything US-centric, but I digress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 5 points 13 hours ago* (1 child) Yeah seriously I started doing Doordash recently to try and get on top of my finances and I'd feel awful about the stuff here And to be honest They're fucking everyone over, the Dashers make basically minimum wage if that, Doordash marks up all the items on the menus, and adds a bunch of bullshit fees. The only money reliably making it from the customers to the dashers are the tips, and only because they're required to by law. But for my case, it's something flexible and relatively low-effort that I can do when I'm not working my day job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 4 points 8 hours ago The trick here is to wait out the 7+ month waiting list for GrubHub. My stomach churns at the fact that I'm about to be a corpo shill, but I make an average of ~$27/hr (and yes for all of you that are about to jump on this, that is after taxes, maintenance, and time spent searching). The only thing I have to do to earn is turn things on like a cab. I earn about $10/hr above what is the average here and that's the only reason I'm not sleeping in my car. And, also - this applies to all of the delivery apps, but you sadly need to find a heavily gentrified area to do this. To pay the bills this way, you have to find and exploit the petite bourgeoisie. I make fucking good money doing this bullshit, even more than I did in my 20+ year career as a machinist. What fucking sucks about it is that you have to toe the red line, no matter where you are. If you are willing to drive to the suburbs with unnecessarily large houses, you will make money. I fucking hate this, but in the end by doing this kind of work you are in a way preying on the disabled and infirm, but they have no other choice so you are in a way helping. On the other hand, there's a good chance that you are draining class traitors of their capital. I don't know what to say beyond this other than what people say about "underpaid labor!" is, in fact, entirely dependent on area, and there are high odds that the people saying that it is impossible to make enough to live doing any sort of labor that nets you less than $100,000/yr. I want to go on a rant about how "office job labor"-centric mentality is way more prevalent than anything US-centric, but I digress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 4 points 8 hours ago The trick here is to wait out the 7+ month waiting list for GrubHub. My stomach churns at the fact that I'm about to be a corpo shill, but I make an average of ~$27/hr (and yes for all of you that are about to jump on this, that is after taxes, maintenance, and time spent searching). The only thing I have to do to earn is turn things on like a cab. I earn about $10/hr above what is the average here and that's the only reason I'm not sleeping in my car. And, also - this applies to all of the delivery apps, but you sadly need to find a heavily gentrified area to do this. To pay the bills this way, you have to find and exploit the petite bourgeoisie. I make fucking good money doing this bullshit, even more than I did in my 20+ year career as a machinist. What fucking sucks about it is that you have to toe the red line, no matter where you are. If you are willing to drive to the suburbs with unnecessarily large houses, you will make money. I fucking hate this, but in the end by doing this kind of work you are in a way preying on the disabled and infirm, but they have no other choice so you are in a way helping. On the other hand, there's a good chance that you are draining class traitors of their capital. I don't know what to say beyond this other than what people say about "underpaid labor!" is, in fact, entirely dependent on area, and there are high odds that the people saying that it is impossible to make enough to live doing any sort of labor that nets you less than $100,000/yr. I want to go on a rant about how "office job labor"-centric mentality is way more prevalent than anything US-centric, but I digress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shweddy@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago Inconvenience of getting your own food is less than over paying for shit service. And you deserve it if you dont realize they dont give a fuck about you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 point 19 hours ago (1 child) This is why living in a city is awesome. Just walk 6 blocks and get a bite to eat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago Did you read a fucking word they said? About being exhausted, or having to look after kids, or having housework to do... You're still gonna find time for 45+ minutes to walk 6 blocks, wait in line, pay, and walk back and still have all the shit you need to do and still eat before it gets cold? Christ sake... "Just walk 6 blocks". Tell a single mom that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago Did you read a fucking word they said? About being exhausted, or having to look after kids, or having housework to do... You're still gonna find time for 45+ minutes to walk 6 blocks, wait in line, pay, and walk back and still have all the shit you need to do and still eat before it gets cold? Christ sake... "Just walk 6 blocks". Tell a single mom that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -10 points 1 day ago (2 children) So basically laziness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children) Yea dude. Not wanting to drive after drinking is just laziness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago Consuming a drug without a plan of how the next few hours are going to go is incredibly stupid and lazy, yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 child) Getting drunk without food prepared ahead of time is laziness. People safely fed themselves for centuries before delivery apps existed, they can do it now too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 point 23 hours ago* Yes, and for centuries, leaving your house while drunk to go get food was a viable option because walking or riding a horse while drunk is a lot safer than driving a car. Then we got cars, and the roads became dangerous. And yes, there was a brief period where there were no delivery services from restaurants. But very quickly, restaurants realized they could get more sales if they offered to deliver food to people for reasons like the many I listed above. So to be clear, are you pining for that brief period of time a handful of decades long, between the time of cars being widely adopted and restaurants offering delivery and using that as an example for something you believe everyone should return to? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sel@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) Yeah bro. Before all these slop delivery apps how did anyone ever survive. Do better. For fucks sake. Such a lazy excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* They ordered pizza or Chinese or some local store that had their own delivery drivers. That doesn't exist anymore. Stores outsource their deliveries to companies like door dash. Oh sorry, was this supposed to be some dumbass "gotcha" that completely ignores reality? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago People produced less, the economy was better, the climate wasn’t at this point in the collapse. People are so unreasonable for wanting to pay for convenience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children) Completely impossible to get food ahead of time. Just no way to have a pizza in your freezer in case you get hungry after a night out drinking. I just spontaneously get drunk sometimes so it comes out of nowhere and I'm not able to plan ahead. I need DoorDash or I would literally starve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago The freezer pizza is nowhere near as good as a fresh pizza from a decent pizzeria though? You'd have to cook your own pizza for it to even be comparable. Like yes I always have something I can heat up at 3 AM if I'm working an all nighter to catch up on shit, but you know what tastes best when drunk? Hot fast food I didn't have to prepare at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 point 17 hours ago Your comment literally screams "No one ever visits me and nothing I do is for enjoyment" permalink fedilink source parent [–] sel@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago I mean literally. We all had to get food before these apps came in. I don’t understand the why we can’t now besides being pure fucking lazy and not willing to do anything to change the status quo instead just bitching about it online acting like there is nothing left to do. It’s so fucking maddening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children) Yea dude. Not wanting to drive after drinking is just laziness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago Consuming a drug without a plan of how the next few hours are going to go is incredibly stupid and lazy, yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 child) Getting drunk without food prepared ahead of time is laziness. People safely fed themselves for centuries before delivery apps existed, they can do it now too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 point 23 hours ago* Yes, and for centuries, leaving your house while drunk to go get food was a viable option because walking or riding a horse while drunk is a lot safer than driving a car. Then we got cars, and the roads became dangerous. And yes, there was a brief period where there were no delivery services from restaurants. But very quickly, restaurants realized they could get more sales if they offered to deliver food to people for reasons like the many I listed above. So to be clear, are you pining for that brief period of time a handful of decades long, between the time of cars being widely adopted and restaurants offering delivery and using that as an example for something you believe everyone should return to? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sel@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) Yeah bro. Before all these slop delivery apps how did anyone ever survive. Do better. For fucks sake. Such a lazy excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* They ordered pizza or Chinese or some local store that had their own delivery drivers. That doesn't exist anymore. Stores outsource their deliveries to companies like door dash. Oh sorry, was this supposed to be some dumbass "gotcha" that completely ignores reality? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago People produced less, the economy was better, the climate wasn’t at this point in the collapse. People are so unreasonable for wanting to pay for convenience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children) Completely impossible to get food ahead of time. Just no way to have a pizza in your freezer in case you get hungry after a night out drinking. I just spontaneously get drunk sometimes so it comes out of nowhere and I'm not able to plan ahead. I need DoorDash or I would literally starve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago The freezer pizza is nowhere near as good as a fresh pizza from a decent pizzeria though? You'd have to cook your own pizza for it to even be comparable. Like yes I always have something I can heat up at 3 AM if I'm working an all nighter to catch up on shit, but you know what tastes best when drunk? Hot fast food I didn't have to prepare at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 point 17 hours ago Your comment literally screams "No one ever visits me and nothing I do is for enjoyment" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago Consuming a drug without a plan of how the next few hours are going to go is incredibly stupid and lazy, yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 child) Getting drunk without food prepared ahead of time is laziness. People safely fed themselves for centuries before delivery apps existed, they can do it now too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 point 23 hours ago* Yes, and for centuries, leaving your house while drunk to go get food was a viable option because walking or riding a horse while drunk is a lot safer than driving a car. Then we got cars, and the roads became dangerous. And yes, there was a brief period where there were no delivery services from restaurants. But very quickly, restaurants realized they could get more sales if they offered to deliver food to people for reasons like the many I listed above. So to be clear, are you pining for that brief period of time a handful of decades long, between the time of cars being widely adopted and restaurants offering delivery and using that as an example for something you believe everyone should return to? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 point 23 hours ago* Yes, and for centuries, leaving your house while drunk to go get food was a viable option because walking or riding a horse while drunk is a lot safer than driving a car. Then we got cars, and the roads became dangerous. And yes, there was a brief period where there were no delivery services from restaurants. But very quickly, restaurants realized they could get more sales if they offered to deliver food to people for reasons like the many I listed above. So to be clear, are you pining for that brief period of time a handful of decades long, between the time of cars being widely adopted and restaurants offering delivery and using that as an example for something you believe everyone should return to? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sel@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) Yeah bro. Before all these slop delivery apps how did anyone ever survive. Do better. For fucks sake. Such a lazy excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* They ordered pizza or Chinese or some local store that had their own delivery drivers. That doesn't exist anymore. Stores outsource their deliveries to companies like door dash. Oh sorry, was this supposed to be some dumbass "gotcha" that completely ignores reality? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago People produced less, the economy was better, the climate wasn’t at this point in the collapse. People are so unreasonable for wanting to pay for convenience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* They ordered pizza or Chinese or some local store that had their own delivery drivers. That doesn't exist anymore. Stores outsource their deliveries to companies like door dash. Oh sorry, was this supposed to be some dumbass "gotcha" that completely ignores reality? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago People produced less, the economy was better, the climate wasn’t at this point in the collapse. People are so unreasonable for wanting to pay for convenience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children) Completely impossible to get food ahead of time. Just no way to have a pizza in your freezer in case you get hungry after a night out drinking. I just spontaneously get drunk sometimes so it comes out of nowhere and I'm not able to plan ahead. I need DoorDash or I would literally starve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago The freezer pizza is nowhere near as good as a fresh pizza from a decent pizzeria though? You'd have to cook your own pizza for it to even be comparable. Like yes I always have something I can heat up at 3 AM if I'm working an all nighter to catch up on shit, but you know what tastes best when drunk? Hot fast food I didn't have to prepare at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 point 17 hours ago Your comment literally screams "No one ever visits me and nothing I do is for enjoyment" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago The freezer pizza is nowhere near as good as a fresh pizza from a decent pizzeria though? You'd have to cook your own pizza for it to even be comparable. Like yes I always have something I can heat up at 3 AM if I'm working an all nighter to catch up on shit, but you know what tastes best when drunk? Hot fast food I didn't have to prepare at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 point 17 hours ago Your comment literally screams "No one ever visits me and nothing I do is for enjoyment" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sel@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago I mean literally. We all had to get food before these apps came in. I don’t understand the why we can’t now besides being pure fucking lazy and not willing to do anything to change the status quo instead just bitching about it online acting like there is nothing left to do. It’s so fucking maddening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago I share your perspective and reading these comments made me realize we have different paths of lease resistance. For some who have gotten used to them, it’s easier to put up with the enshitification than not using them, for others, the path of least resistance is to not use them in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 child) Because I’m already high and forgot I don’t have any food in the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago* (2 children) Go hungry? Phone a friend? Ask the neighbor? Not give a tech bro $50 to deliver a depression by exploiting your community. What do you think we've done for checks notes the last 100,000 years that we have been getting high? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (1 child) Well for most of that history people lived in walkable settlements and cities. Pompeii had fast food stalls. And more recently (relatively) food ordering direct through a restaurant was the norm. Pizza delivery dates back to the 19th century, which is checks notes more than 100 years ago. So yeah, access to food has changed a lot and it is nor unreasonable to expect your delivery driver not to toss your food into the street. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rooster326@programming.dev 0 points 15 hours ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] danekrae@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago "No! I want to complain AND be lazy!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago* (2 children) Go hungry? Phone a friend? Ask the neighbor? Not give a tech bro $50 to deliver a depression by exploiting your community. What do you think we've done for checks notes the last 100,000 years that we have been getting high? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (1 child) Well for most of that history people lived in walkable settlements and cities. Pompeii had fast food stalls. And more recently (relatively) food ordering direct through a restaurant was the norm. Pizza delivery dates back to the 19th century, which is checks notes more than 100 years ago. So yeah, access to food has changed a lot and it is nor unreasonable to expect your delivery driver not to toss your food into the street. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rooster326@programming.dev 0 points 15 hours ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] danekrae@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago "No! I want to complain AND be lazy!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (1 child) Well for most of that history people lived in walkable settlements and cities. Pompeii had fast food stalls. And more recently (relatively) food ordering direct through a restaurant was the norm. Pizza delivery dates back to the 19th century, which is checks notes more than 100 years ago. So yeah, access to food has changed a lot and it is nor unreasonable to expect your delivery driver not to toss your food into the street. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rooster326@programming.dev 0 points 15 hours ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago "No! I want to complain AND be lazy!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago I was getting g a burger the other day (something I’m loathe to do but it was circumstances…) and as I’m waiting several dasher came in and grabbed orders waiting. I’m a people watcher so I sit where I can watch people come and go while I wait for my order and can still hear my name. Now, it was storming outside, I mean it was nuts. One of those dashers came in grabbed the bag of food and used it as a rain block to get back to their car. Just held it over their head like it was making any difference at all. Whoever got those soggy fries I hope they don’t go through the hassle again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (2 children) You are paying double the amount You answered your own question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) How would paying more cause it to be popular? I can get you Lemmy+ if you want! It has the exact same experience, but you get to pay me 10€ a month for the privilege. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 child) Tell me more about Lemmy+. Do I get some sort of visual indicator so other people can tell I’m paying you 10€ per month? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ignominous_wombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* No, but if you separately pay me $15/month, I'll post in a different community every day about how you're paying them €10/month. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago Except it's not Lemmy+. It's just what the standard experience is, and most people seem to tolerate it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 child) How does paying double make it popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago The answer is that it's not popular but it's not enough for people to stop using the service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) How would paying more cause it to be popular? I can get you Lemmy+ if you want! It has the exact same experience, but you get to pay me 10€ a month for the privilege. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 child) Tell me more about Lemmy+. Do I get some sort of visual indicator so other people can tell I’m paying you 10€ per month? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ignominous_wombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* No, but if you separately pay me $15/month, I'll post in a different community every day about how you're paying them €10/month. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago Except it's not Lemmy+. It's just what the standard experience is, and most people seem to tolerate it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 child) Tell me more about Lemmy+. Do I get some sort of visual indicator so other people can tell I’m paying you 10€ per month? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ignominous_wombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* No, but if you separately pay me $15/month, I'll post in a different community every day about how you're paying them €10/month. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ignominous_wombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* No, but if you separately pay me $15/month, I'll post in a different community every day about how you're paying them €10/month. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago Except it's not Lemmy+. It's just what the standard experience is, and most people seem to tolerate it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 child) How does paying double make it popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago The answer is that it's not popular but it's not enough for people to stop using the service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago The answer is that it's not popular but it's not enough for people to stop using the service. permalink fedilink source parent