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Winning is relative (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] 133 points 3 years ago (8 children)

God please let me move to Europe I don't even care what language I have to learn I just wanna be able to live without worrying about affording a doctor appointment.

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  • [–] 74 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I understood that!

    Duolingo, you son of a bitch you've done it again!

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Did Duolingo teach you what "Hurensohn" means?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yes. Subscribe for the naughty words 😏

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Subscribe for the naughty words

    THIS is how Duolingo will get my money. That's some value-add right there.

    But the quebecois stuff just sounds religious. Weeeird. (I kid, I kid. I once had a sergeant mutter 'sacre bleu' to me, and I almost chuckled realizing it was an actual curse, which is the only way the day could have been made worse)

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  • [+] 52 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
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  • [–] 39 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Work in IT.
    Start at 9:00
    Lunch 13:00-14:00
    Go home at 18:00
    Commute (if construction does not tear up the main crossing) is around 30min 1-way with bus or a 15-20min bicycle ride.

    Experience: About 5 years without college/uni.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think IT might not be as easy as you think. Academia is a bit more open.

    IT isn't quite high skilled enough to get in. They'd almost certainly need an employer to say they couldn't find a European to do the job, which is exceedingly unlikely.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don't know if I quite get what you are saying...
    You mean it from the perspective of a US based company?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    I think he's saying it's harder to get a work visa taking a job in IT, as the EU company would have to first prove that they couldn't find a European citizen to take the job before they can start hiring foreigners.

    It hasn't been my experience though, we hire lots of foreigners on work visas. Many from India and former Soviet countries especially.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Work in IT. Start at 9:00 Lunch 13:00-14:00 Go home at 18:00

    IT Job I left:

    • start at 8
    • coffee 10-1030-ish (sometimes like 11)
    • lunch at 12-13
    • second coffee 15-1530
    • leave at 1647, home by 1720 by train -- tools down, muthafuckas
    • voluntary standby for 1/4 time and immediate double-time for callouts, sanctity of personal time otherwise.
    • union, 9x9 work term, no abrupt firings.
    • EXACTLY on the median base salary for my job+region, which includes dot-coms.
    • in north america, no less.

    Experience: About 5 years without college/uni.

    Experience: my soul.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Maybe you don't need the language for work. But you will need te learn the language eventually for other day to day interactions.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Or the paper works outside of the labs.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Dutchie here, we do the same. Everybody speaks (some form of) English, almost everything is also available in English.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    My experience is purely based on Germany and I hate it even as a native. Plus having ADHD and paper being a chore doesnt help at all...

    Also most folks (in my experience of south west Germany) of age >40-50 have little experience with English and can't converse beyond the most basics.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    For some reason France really doesn't like giving english (or any other than french) options on their gov sites. Every other country in the eu are fine.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    In France, I feel French is heavily a part of their identity; and contrary to Americans fairweather-jeering their best revolutionary ally, the French do not surrender lightly. It feels like that's the one thing even the poorest French person has, and taking away one iota of that will be met with a resistance we've learned to respect.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    but in Norway [:] English. Everyone speaks it

    Scandinavia is absolutely killing it for bilingualism, among so many other ways they're killin' it -- no, really, other countries should just study them for clues in general. My experiences (just Sweden, Denmark and bonus Iceland, so far) is that they say Hej and listen for your "hello", flipping over into beautiful and perfect English without hesitation. Their language programmes are just fucking astounding, really.

    Spain's fine in the touristy spots, but Spanish itself is VERY accessible as a language, so it's kinda moot like France.

    In Germany I will have to rely heavily on the kindness of strangers as I will never grok the language.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Seven hour day with an hour and fifteen minute lunch. What kind of magic is this? What's the catch?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    Well this might be an anomaly but the company I worked for in the Philippines gave you a dedicated hour for lunch and two 15-minute breaks, plus two hours weekly for any of the workshops/learning opportunities they provide.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    In what country do you work?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    just wanna be able to live without worrying about affording a doctor appointment.

    If you avoid the flatlander areas, Canada may be for you. We also speak English; just, without the accent. :-P

    (unless you live on the island that's an hour's ferry from France)

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Speaking a language without an accent is like wearing clothes without a material

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Idk I'm from the central US and I had a German foreign exchange student tell me we didn't have a mimicable accent. I know it's not true but it was interesting to hear that from someone who's familiar with everyone around her speaking in a completely different way, even when using English.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    That's common if you don't know a language too well. There is the variant that you learned, and since you don't know more, you think that this variant has no accent and all the other variants (that you didn't learn and thus are hard to understand) you think have accents.

    Only once you spent significant time with multiple accents will you be able to pick up the differences.

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